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Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 4/28/2008 8:13:58 PM   
dhyde79


 

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Status: offline 		without it turning into a flame war, what's realistically the better way to go, nitro or electric?

I've got a Savage so I'm familiar with the nitro drawbacks as well as benefits, I've not got an electric car or truck, (do have a Blade CX2, but, I never fly it cause I'm tired of replacing blades every time I do) so, while I've heard plenty of opinionated "electric's better" or "Nitro's best" I've not played with both to try them.

also, what're some decent cars for a reasonable amount of money?(read as, I'm not spending more than $350 to get it running)

I'm going to check at the LHS and see what they carry in house that I could have easy parts access with as well. and will report back with what they've got.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 4/28/2008 8:35:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: dhyde79

without it turning into a flame war, what's realistically the better way to go, nitro or electric?

I've got a Savage so I'm familiar with the nitro drawbacks as well as benefits, I've not got an electric car or truck, (do have a Blade CX2, but, I never fly it cause I'm tired of replacing blades every time I do) so, while I've heard plenty of opinionated "electric's better" or "Nitro's best" I've not played with both to try them.

also, what're some decent cars for a reasonable amount of money?(read as, I'm not spending more than $350 to get it running)

I'm going to check at the LHS and see what they carry in house that I could have easy parts access with as well. and will report back with what they've got.


Honestly man its a mentality,

I see distinct personality traits of nitroers vs electrics.. or on-road vs off-road or air vs ground

What appeals to you? if the techy electric appeals to you go with it, if they hit-em hard nitro appeals to you go with it

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 4/28/2008 9:50:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		well, I think, because it's going to be more of a toy than something to mess with trying to race and make uber fast and all of that crap, I'm leaning more towards electric.....LHS has a used Losi XXX-S with 14T mod motor and aftermarket ESC, new body in mint condition, everything looks sharp except for the tires which obviously need replaced, for $120 I think, I've already got a 3300mah stick pack that I can slap in it and then getting a servo for it (puts me at about $150) and will be adding my second RX unit from my DX3.0 for my savage to it....

good deal, bad deal, what do you think?

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/6/2008 3:32:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can't go wrong with an electric losi good quality but check out HPI sprint2 drift car and the YOKOMO drift cars they are good to look at and reliable.
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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/10/2008 10:36:50 PM   
dhyde79


 

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Status: offline 		well, after much debate, I got the XXX-S (ended up being a XXX-S G+) and dropped a mamba max 5700 brushless setup in it, some 3mm offset HPI TE37 wheels and the HPI M compound low profile tires too....and then, got a used TC3 for the wife, which will be getting a 14T brushed motor for now, with a Tazer 12T ESC on it, it'll get the same tires, probably different wheels though, hoping that they'll both be a lot of fun.....I know already that I love the Losi, sticks to whatever line I point it at like a mad man, and the wheels I got, are definitely helpful for my "point & shoot" driving style on it....

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/10/2008 10:47:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is how it pretty much all sums up, If you want performance nitro will never beat electric in that category, Also electrics will always be faster and jump higher than nitros. If you like the smell and sound of nitro thats reason enough to get one.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/10/2008 11:08:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		that sir, is bait to start the flame war I above stated I don't want started.

However, I'll humor your post.

BRUSHLESS electric has POTENTIAL to beat nitro.
If you put a considerable amount of funds into big bad LiPo packs and chargers, and brushless ESC/Motor kits.

However, dollar for dollar, electric of any sort can't compete with Nitro for run time.
In my nitro truck, if I'm out of gas, I put another tank in, and my fuel is less than $30 a gallon, which is a few days worth of running.
In my electric touring car, to get 15 minutes of run time on my OLD setup (14T brushed motor and Tazer 12T ESC) I had to pop $40 batteries in, which, take a little under an hour on any decent charger to re-charge.
I can go for bigger packs, at more expense to get a slight increase in run time, but, electric won't ever match my run times on nitro.

That being said, I went electric for the "convenience and no tuning" angle, not because it outweighed nitro by loads, also because I can run electric in the house without the wife murdering me.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 2:42:55 AM   
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Status: online 		A good quality lipo pack will give you 200-400 runs for lets say about 100 dollars. Lets say 15 tanks for a gallon of nitro. It would cost 600 dollars for the same runtime as a lipo battery. You can get away with 3 lipo packs as they last 20-30 minutes.

I just state the facts since all the nitro guys say lipo and brushless is more expensive than nitro? My mitros cost way more in fuel alone.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 6:28:28 AM   
divine_13


 

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ORIGINAL: dhyde79

that sir, is bait to start the flame war I above stated I don't want started.

However, I'll humor your post.

BRUSHLESS electric has POTENTIAL to beat nitro.
If you put a considerable amount of funds into big bad LiPo packs and chargers, and brushless ESC/Motor kits.

However, dollar for dollar, electric of any sort can't compete with Nitro for run time.
In my nitro truck, if I'm out of gas, I put another tank in, and my fuel is less than $30 a gallon, which is a few days worth of running.
In my electric touring car, to get 15 minutes of run time on my OLD setup (14T brushed motor and Tazer 12T ESC) I had to pop $40 batteries in, which, take a little under an hour on any decent charger to re-charge.
I can go for bigger packs, at more expense to get a slight increase in run time, but, electric won't ever match my run times on nitro.

That being said, I went electric for the "convenience and no tuning" angle, not because it outweighed nitro by loads, also because I can run electric in the house without the wife murdering me.

Im talking about performance I never said dollar to dollar, and im not an electric fanboy either my next rc is a nitro.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 6:53:42 AM   
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A good quality lipo pack will give you 200-400 runs for lets say about 100 dollars. Lets say 15 tanks for a gallon of nitro. It would cost 600 dollars for the same runtime as a lipo battery. You can get away with 3 lipo packs as they last 20-30 minutes.

I just state the facts since all the nitro guys say lipo and brushless is more expensive than nitro? My mitros cost way more in fuel alone.

good point, but also with a brushless lipo system you need the motor unit, ESC... but for onroad cars the engines can get expensive fast.... so it comes down to a matter of cost, time to use it, and location to use it
if your neighbors can't stand loud stuff go electric
if you don't have much time to drive after work or stuff, go electric
if your neighbors are a bunch of rap blastin tweens, then get a ntiro
if you got a reasonable amount of time to tune the engine. and do after run/clean up get a nitro
it comes down to those factors , personally, if you are considering racing, check out the local track and find out the most popular class so if you do decide to try your hand at racing then you can have somethin to use ,

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 10:53:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		I clicked on this thread because I thought it was about Drift/Touring Car not Nitro vs. Electric

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 2:21:19 PM   
AutoXMan



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good point, but also with a brushless lipo system you need the motor unit, ESC... but for onroad cars the engines can get expensive fast.... so it comes down to a matter of cost, time to use it, and location to use it


Nitros need engines too about = in cost to brushless/esc nowadays. But in the end I love my nitros and electrics.

Anway back to the original poster, electrics will get you drifting for a cheaper cost than nitros. Their instant torque is awesome for drifting, I can drift my onroad nitro, but I need plenty of room and the drifts dont look as pretty.

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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 2:27:48 PM   
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Status: online 		Can we all agree to disagree and end it there...
Nitro owners will never believe what electric owners say and Electric owners will never believe what the Nitro guys do..

How ever, in saying that... in the 1:10th Scale : The world record for Speed belongs to an electric on a Nitro Chassis...

Out of the Box, Nitro's do have the upper hand for the moment
Running costs how ever are in favour of the Electrics...



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RE: Newbie Drift/Touring Car Question.... - 5/12/2008 2:31:19 PM