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Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 7:35:53 AM   
vasek



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Status: offline 		I've have a bit of a problem with the Spektrum software display where "they" use INH & ACT instead of ON & OFF!

It took me a while to figure out what the INH meant... it means "Inhibit"(!) and ACT meaning "Active".

so far I like the the DX6i very much, just wondering why anyone would want to complicate stuff and NOT use the simple ON & OFF terminology like every one else

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 12:15:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can't actually speak about the DX6 since I do not own one, but with Futaba, INH means that the functionality of the mix is prohibited from working. ACT means that the functionality is activated and available to use during flight. Once activated, the function can be turned on (ACT-ON) and off (ACT-OFF) with a switch (or left on all of the time, not assigned to a switch) anytime during flight. For example if you want flaps, you must activate the flap function in your program, then you can deploy them with a switch during take off and landing but turn them off during regular flight. There are more mixes and available to your program than there are switches on your transmitter. You don't want to be activating stuff that you don't have a need for accidentally by hitting the wrong switch. INH/ACT allows you to customize your program with only the mixes you need and control them how you want.

Mike

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 12:59:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: huggins

I can't actually speak about the DX6 since I do not own one, but with Futaba, INH means that the functionality of the mix is prohibited from working. ACT means that the functionality is activated and available to use during flight. Once activated, the function can be turned on (ACT-ON) and off (ACT-OFF) with a switch (or left on all of the time, not assigned to a switch) anytime during flight. For example if you want flaps, you must activate the flap function in your program, then you can deploy them with a switch during take off and landing but turn them off during regular flight. There are more mixes and available to your program than there are switches on your transmitter. You don't want to be activating stuff that you don't have a need for accidentally by hitting the wrong switch. INH/ACT allows you to customize your program with only the mixes you need and control them how you want.

Mike

Amazing. A dozen lines to say what Vasek said in his second sentence - without addressing the question.

That might be your answer, Vasek! They just like to use more letters than necessary!
Good luck,
Dave Olson

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 1:30:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah...but huggins DID answer the question, as a little reading will show:

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INH means that the functionality of the mix is prohibited from working. ACT means that the functionality is activated and available to use during flight. Once activated, the function can be turned on (ACT-ON) and off (ACT-OFF) with a switch (or left on all of the time, not assigned to a switch) anytime during flight.


They're labeled as they are because they AREN'T ON AND OFF. They are exactly what they say...Inhibited and Active.

An inhibited function may not be used...it is inhibited. No amount of switch throwing, button pushing, or slider moving will make the function available to you during flight.

An Active function is active...it is available for use during flight. It may the n be turned on or off at the pilot's discretion.

One might say that in a fixed gear airplane, the gear function is "inhibited"...while in a retractable gear airplane, it is "active", and may be selected to On or off (or up and down if you prefer) during flight.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 2:02:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		> They are exactly what they say...Inhibited and Active. <

You are, of course, technicaly correct, but the problem is that it is Engineer-Speak and is not really comprehensible to the average person. Which is why instruction manuals are such agony for ordinary mortals and there is a great market for people who write supplementary instruction manuals.

Another example is servo "adjustable travel volume"- Huh? Some radio makers finally realized that "end point adjustment" is clearer to most people. And no newcomer can figure out what "sub-trim" means. It is better described as simply "center point adjustment". Good writers do this naturally, but not engineers.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 2:42:36 PM   
gboulton



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If you say so. I'm not an engineer by any means, and, though we haven't tested the proposition yet, I'm fairly sure I'm mortal...and yet, every one of the examples you give makes perfect sense to me.

Why wouldn't adjustable travel volume mean exactly what it says...that I can adjust the volume of travel?

To each his own, I guess.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 5:28:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems much easier to understand than "Objects in Mirror are Closer Than They Appear". I mean seriously, the object appears to be right there in the mirror, but they say it is closer...which would put that car in my front seat!!!

I guess they meant to say, "Objects are closer than they appear to be in mirror" [)]

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 5:40:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Scar


quote:

ORIGINAL: huggins

I can't actually speak about the DX6 since I do not own one, but with Futaba, INH means that the functionality of the mix is prohibited from working. ACT means that the functionality is activated and available to use during flight. Once activated, the function can be turned on (ACT-ON) and off (ACT-OFF) with a switch (or left on all of the time, not assigned to a switch) anytime during flight. For example if you want flaps, you must activate the flap function in your program, then you can deploy them with a switch during take off and landing but turn them off during regular flight. There are more mixes and available to your program than there are switches on your transmitter. You don't want to be activating stuff that you don't have a need for accidentally by hitting the wrong switch. INH/ACT allows you to customize your program with only the mixes you need and control them how you want.

Mike

Amazing. A dozen lines to say what Vasek said in his second sentence - without addressing the question.

That might be your answer, Vasek! They just like to use more letters than necessary!
Good luck,
Dave Olson


Amazing. I try to answer somebodies question and I am accused of using too many words. While your reference to Vasek's second sentence that he discovered what INH and ACT meant is true, that was NOT the question. The question came in his third sentence when he asked why they don't use on/off terminology instead. This leads me to believe that he did not understand the difference between a mix being inhibited or active vs. being active, but either on or off. Maybe I was wrong, and if so, my appologies to Vasek. My response was my attempt at explaining the difference which most certainly addressed his question.

Mike


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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/1/2008 6:57:49 PM   
vasek



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Status: offline 		Let me try this again,

EX-1:

for D/R&EXPO the line shows (factory setting)

AILE 1 100% INH

it took me a while to understand that> AILERON setting on the sw1 position has 100% DUAL RATE and 0% EXPO

so why NOT show 0% on the display? as simple as that

the switch position 2 can have different settings and it's understood the setting in sw1 position are OFF in the switch position 2, right?

EX-2:

To select a Wing/Tail Type

DUALALE INH
V-TAIL INH
ELEVON INH

it's not linked to any other switch so it's either ON or OFF....

stuff like that just makes the learning curve steeper for no reason, I think

Unless i missed something[)]

Cheers, V.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/2/2008 12:15:30 AM   
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Status: online 		Maybe this will help, maybe not. Almost all automotive products produced today have cruise control. You have a switch that will activate or de-activate the cruise function. Now, if you wish to select the cruise function, you may do so by pressing or sliding the "on" switch. The activate/de-activate switch makes it available to you if you wish to turn it on, but it won't actually work until you press the second switch. Conversely, pressing the second switch is useless unless the function is first activated.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/2/2008 4:42:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have this new HHR. The cruise control doubles with other functions of the same switch. The only thing that works without thinking is stepping on the brake to shut it off.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/2/2008 4:29:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with Vasek, that seems really confusing to me also. It reminds me of programming the old Futaba 8UAF radios. That is why I bought a 9c for easier programming. It took the computer industry 25 years to standardize itself, I guess we are still waiting for R/C!

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/4/2008 4:31:05 AM   
Brokenprop


 

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Status: offline 		So why do you suppose Futaba decided to use the term NUL? I really screwed things up with that one. I thought it meant INH. I really gotta start reading instructions. I don't think it should be necessary. Instructions for electronics are grown from the seeds of ancient digital watches Press A, hold, release, press B repeatedly until......

Oh well, my phone still doesn't recognize my daughters name. When I got angry with it, it told me not to take that tone with it.

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RE: Who is writing the software??? - 5/4/2008 2:37:14 PM   
Dsegal


 

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Status: offline 		> Why wouldn't adjustable travel volume mean exactly what it says...that I can adjust the volume of travel?<

Because in plain English no one refers to how far something moves as "volume". If someone is having trouble with t