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FPV racer wilo -> Entry level to club level touring car (5/6/2008 3:25:39 AM)

most race weekends we have people coming to our track wanting to find out on which rc car is good to race with for entry level to club level I sugest the HPI sprint I would like to know other rc cars out there that does not require (speed tuned gears bearings shocks and aloy motor mounts)

new racers expect they can go racing with a car straight out of the box that wont send them broke

Thanks Brett.




magnat -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/6/2008 10:21:53 AM)

HPI Sprint 2 and Cyclone S are the way to go..

Also look at the Losi XXX-S..




rcluke -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/6/2008 5:26:10 PM)

you want a Tamiya TA-05 mate

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7114022/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm




jmcvicker -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/6/2008 7:55:39 PM)

My son runs a XXX-S car in his first year outdoors. He's happy with it. I bought a hopped-up TC3 from another racer and really like it. In the Stock 27T class, it's perfect. Even racers with newer setups remember liking their TC3s years ago. The carbon-fibre conversion kit makes a TC3 into a real good handling car.

Anyway - my vote is used TC3s.




gfevert -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/6/2008 10:33:49 PM)

ill second the ta-05 very good setup for the price can handle brushless and stands up well when slammed into the boards




Calin666 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/7/2008 12:16:46 AM)

I don't have one yet, but have driven a TA05, and am getting one this weekend. Me THREE on the TA05.




magnat -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/7/2008 2:52:11 AM)

Thing is, trying to get RTR TA-05 is not as easy here as it seems... most of them are Kits.. and newbies don't like Messing around with Building them...

The only RTR's they offer down here are TT-01 and TT-01D's
HPI Sprint 2
and the XXX-S

HBX Lancers are the Ultimate in Budget RTR's and can be picked up on E-bay for less then the cost of the radio of a XB Pro TT-01..
There pretty competitive and although HBX is not a " Brand Name" they do have brand name support in the form of Tamiya TL-01 Parts..
The Lancers are a Tiny bit faster then the Stock TT-01...


If your looking at the Rookie who wants to Trade up then sure, the Cyclone S and the Tamiya TA-05 and the Team Associated TC4's are a great way to go...





drevil -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/8/2008 8:26:15 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: magnat

Thing is, trying to get RTR TA-05 is not as easy here as it seems... most of them are Kits.. and newbies don't like Messing around with Building them..



They are all kits. Tamiya doesn't make the TA05 in RTR. One of the best RTRs you can get is the TC4.




Calin666 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/8/2008 10:47:14 PM)

The TA05 really isn't that hard at all to build. I actually got mine Tuesday, and finished building it the next day. All in all, maybe 9 hours build time.
A reasonable radio with included servo, and an ESC will run maybe $110. Mine came with a motor, so they wouldn't have to worry about it. After the build time, they would have about $260 invested in the car, which was about the same as my buddy spent for his XXX-S Sport RTR 2.
Besides, when I compared th two cars side by side, the Tamiya loked like a work of art, as opossed the XXX-S.
I think that the newbies might be a little intimidated by having to assemble the car, but it is nowhere NEAR that difficult.




zake540 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 1:13:13 AM)

TA05 hands downs. Box stock setup is very good. Adjustments are easily felt. Very easy to drive and handles just as good as my TC5 on an asphalt track.

So do yourself a favor and get the Tao5




Calin666 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 2:42:52 AM)

I couldn't agree with zake540 more.
Some of the newbies (And I don't say that with disrespect, we all were newbies at one point or another), will hesitate at spending a little bit of extra money ($25 -50 extra).
That is normal. But as a real RC fan, you should try and talk to those that are newbies, and help them see that spending a little exra time and money, will be MORE THAN WORTH the while. This is really something that I wish had known, trusted, and believed in when got into this hobby a little over a year ago. Now, I just save up, and make DAMN sure that I get stuff that I am not going to be unhappy with and just have to upgrade latter.
It really doesn't matter if they get a TA05 or not. All that matters, is that they get something that they are going to be happy with, in both the short, and long run.
That may have been a little bit of a rant, but I do think it is good advice.




zake540 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 4:09:23 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: magnat

Thing is, trying to get RTR TA-05 is not as easy here as it seems... most of them are Kits.. and newbies don't like Messing around with Building them...

The only RTR's they offer down here are TT-01 and TT-01D's
HPI Sprint 2
and the XXX-S

HBX Lancers are the Ultimate in Budget RTR's and can be picked up on E-bay for less then the cost of the radio of a XB Pro TT-01..
There pretty competitive and although HBX is not a " Brand Name" they do have brand name support in the form of Tamiya TL-01 Parts..
The Lancers are a Tiny bit faster then the Stock TT-01...


If your looking at the Rookie who wants to Trade up then sure, the Cyclone S and the Tamiya TA-05 and the Team Associated TC4's are a great way to go...





Building a kit is the best thing you can do when you're just starting out. Not only does it teach you how to take it apart and put it back together if you break something. As you go along and build the kit you learn all the fine adjustments on the car and most important part is that you get know the name of certain parts. I've seen many times people go to the hobby shop with their RTR and say " I broke the thing that holds the shocks" You mean shock tower. Or they go there and say, " my shock is leaking and I don't know why" . If you built the car yourself you would know that there were some o-rings inside the shocks and maybe they are worn out so instead you would say, " I need a shock rebuilt kit ".




Calin666 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 5:53:56 AM)

zake540 made an excellent point, and once again, I have to agree with him 100%.




magnat -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 6:34:30 AM)

Yes It is far better to build a kit, but you really need to have some one with you when you build it, to help dial it in

TA-05,Cyclone S, XXX-S,TC5 wont be any better then a Tyco if it is put together by someone who is all thumbs and Duct tape...

The RTR Path Gets them into the Hobby, then, in time, they can learn to strip it down, modify and Dial in.. Its about getting them hooked in for as little money as possible that
leads to the growth of the Hobby...

I say offer a Group buy on a certain model then Hold an assembly day where you can help them build it..




AutoXMan -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/9/2008 1:34:14 PM)

TA-05 will outhandle most the RTR's on the market. So do yourself a favor and pick up that one, it will last you into modified racing too without the need for upgrades.




Calin666 -> RE: Entry level to club level touring car (5/10/2008 6:37:14 AM)

FPV, I just finished my TA05 today, and did some bash racing against my buddy and his XXX-S RTR.
We have the same 19T motors, and same Venom 3600mah packs. He dose have a much better speed controller though.
I whooped his butt all day. I honestly don't think the XXX-S can compete against the TA05. Now he wants one! lol
For pretty much the same price, somebody can get a much better car in the TA05.




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