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Brian Taylor Fiberglass P-51 Rebuild - 5/6/2008 6:48:28 PM   
iglowhead


 

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From: Waxahachie, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Having found out what I am working on I retitled the thread.
I will do my best to keep the project going and update here
as the work progresses. I went through my plans and found
a set of Brian Taylor plans that have been enlarged to a 72" ws.
Would that be a feasible size or would I be better off having them
reduced to 69". I am also considering going with a foam core wing.
Anyone know where I could get a set of 69" foam cores
for this model?
Thanks,
Tom



Hello,
I figured this would be the best place to go with this issue.
A friend of mine recently gave me this fiberglass P-51 fuse. It is a real nice piece and
have decided to make it my next project. I would like to know what I am working on
and could also use some advice on how to frame up the interior for the engine mount.
A photo of the firewall area on a completed model would be great. I'm guessing a .90 two
stroke would be a good engine choice. The length from end of rudder to back of spinner
is about 57". It takes a 4 3/8" spinner which my friend included with the fuse.
It is aluminum and not the best quality. Looks to be soft spun aluminum.
I did not get the wing but that is not a problem.
Thanks in advance for any help. I'll post more photos as the restoration progresses.

Here are some photos:



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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/6/2008 8:58:05 PM   
iglowhead


 

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Status: offline 		I put a Super Tigre .90 in the cowl and attached the spinner back plate.
Holding the backplate in place the glow plug lines right up with the existing
opening in the cowl. There is a hole on the top of the cowl that I am sure was
for a needle valve. Previous engine must have had rear rotor induction.

I am going to try establishing engine mounting beam location in the fuse
with the engine tacked in place like I have it. I'll cut a temporary firewall
and an aft bulkhead both with vertical slots for the engine beams. Once
everything is lined up I'll tack it with CA. That should give me good templates
for a couple of bulkheads with the engine beam cutouts located. From there the rest
might be easy. I'll post some photos later on. (if it works or not! LOL)
Tom

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/6/2008 9:01:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		i'm thinking it's a brian taylor fuse. i haven't been able to find a length for the brian taylor fuse listed though.

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 12:09:33 AM   
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Hi,
I also think it is a Brian Taylor fuse, based on the laminar flow airfoil shape of the wing seat. I don't know of any other ( non scratch ) fuse with this.

There are some build threads over on RC Scalebuilder for this model. You should be able to get plenty of help.

Cheers,
Merlin Man.

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 12:51:40 AM   
WhiteRook



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Status: offline 		cowl gives it away , its a BT

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 2:34:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just measured my Brian Taylor glass fuselage - it measures 52-3/4" from the rudder post to the cowl face. These fuselages from Bob Holman came with a set of Taylor's plans for the wood version and they may have useful cross sections. There were no special plans that I know of that applied to the glass version.

The glass fuselages had a recessed section that ran underneath the cowl and included the firewall.

HTH

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 3:02:48 AM   
iglowhead


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks all of you for your responses. I mentioned Brian Taylor to my friend when he gave
me the fuse but was not sure because I did not recognize the cowl as a BT design. I had
a smaller BT P-51 and remember it having a more typical full cowl.
I just registered on RC Scalebuilder and quickly found a thread with some photos of a
built up fuse. It has the same cowl as mine and has proved to be helpful. Thanks for that
tip Merlin Man!
I have the 2 temporary bulkheads made. Will do the engine mounting beams next.
Hope to have a pretty good mock-up done tonight.
Thanks again fellas,
Tom

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 3:50:40 AM   
SCALECRAFT


 

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I have the glass fuse version of this model. It is a Taylor. The matt glass cowl, also a trademark of Taylor. And the wing saddle, laminar as full scale.

Steve

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/7/2008 2:23:15 PM   
iglowhead


 

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ORIGINAL: SCALECRAFT

Hi

I have the glass fuse version of this model. It is a Taylor. The matt glass cowl, also a trademark of Taylor. And the wing saddle, laminar as full scale.

Steve



So, the matt glass cowl is original. I thought that maybe someone had repaired it
because it is very thick and weighs a ton. The wing saddle sure made it easy to
cut a pair of crutches for the bulkheads. I am making some progress and should
have some photos to post tonight.
Thanks,
Tom

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RE: i.d. this glass P-51 and help with framing front end - 5/11/2008 7:18:47 AM   
iglowhead


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks to the info I was given here I found a site with some photos of a BT P-51 with the cowl off.
It was just what I needed to get me pointed in the right direction.
Have the engine mounted. Spinner aligned with the cowl nicely.
A couple more bulkheads inside the fuse
and some triangular stock will finish up the framing.
Time to build a wing!
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RE: Brian Taylor Fiberglass P-51 Rebuild - 5/11/2008 6:02:02 PM   
iglowhead


 

Posts: 108
Joined: 6/10/2004
From: Waxahachie, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Having found out what I am working on I retitled the thread.
I will do my best to keep the project going and update here
as the work progresses. I went through my plans and found
a set of Brian Taylor plans that have been enlarged to a 72" ws.
Would that be a feasible size or would I be better off having them
reduced to 69". I am also considering going with a foam core wing.
Anyone know where I could get a set of 69" foam cores
for this model?
Thanks,
Tom

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RE: Brian Taylor Fiberglass P-51 Rebuild - 5/12/2008 1:40:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		you might try wing mfg, i think its www.wingmfg.com

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RE: Brian Taylor Fiberglass P-51 Rebuild - 5/12/2008 3:39:31 AM   
SCALECRAFT


 

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One of the challenges on the foam core will be the forward sweep. Dynaflite/Jemco had a nice little P-51D with a foam core. They had split the core at the root and a bit and inserted a wedge to push the wing LE forward.

Steve

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RE: Brian Taylor Fiberglass P-51 Rebuild - 5/14/2008 2:03:40 PM   
iglowhead


 

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Status: offline 		I checked Wing Mfg's web site but did not find any foam cores.
Will try calling them. Found a guy on eBay that will cut a set if I send him plans.
May try that.
I have been wondering about sheeting the leading edge at the root area.
Look forward to the challenge!

Here are some photos of recent progress I have made on the fuse:


I had to rotate the engine a bit for muffler clearance.
Cut cowl for muffler extensions.
I don't know about the rubber hose for the exhaust extensions.
It is automotive stuff. Thick and ugly but all I had. Will see how it holds up.



Rigged the throttle cable and cut hole in cowl for needle valve.



The Throttle was complicated by the muffler.
The carb had to be rotated a bit for clearance and
a bracket had to be made for cable. I used brass,
1/2" flat and 3/16" square tubing. Worked out great.
I hope the brass will hold up to vibration.



Measuring the needle valve location was easy thanks to cowl design.


I started with a 1/8" hole then installed cowl and checked location
just to be sure. Gradually enlarged hole installing cowl periodically
to check fit.


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