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    P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/9/2008 7:00:49 AM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Ok heres the plane i want to discuss. just got it couple days ago. Been searching for information on it, but nothing really good has come up. the CD manual is Poo, Very vague i'm glad i have some building experience. Looked at hangar 9's p-51 manual for there 60 size bird and it's alot better, will be using some of the tips from it. Doesn't look like this plane has a place for the retract servo to mount. going to have to do a better inspection.

    I have only opened the box to make sure nothing is damaged and that all the parts are there. Been reading alot or some about the retracts that come with this plane being weak and the mounts are weak as well. Guess i shouldn't be disapointed didn't cost very much. and i guess you get what you pay for.. Appears to be a nice looking plane and tylored after the Tuskee Airmen Scheme in a way with its red tail.

    The only other P-51 60 plane that i linked this thread too, has a yellow tail and is the Marie P-51 Mustang 60. Now i dont know if the two planes are basically the same plane with different color shemes or not.

    Second Nitroplanes ARF i have purchased. They always seem to be a challenge in one way or another. Mainly due to the Poor Instructions, but i guess should be happy to get any type of information with the plane for the price its a good deal and now i have a P-51 Mustang Whoo Hooo .

    Now i want to know if anyone else has this particular Model P-51D and what type of servos and other parts you used in your assembly of this ARF. I have one thing purchased for this plane and on it's way, the powerplant for this Bird is going to be an O.S. 61 FX. I choose this engine cause I have one in another plane and is a strong running and dependable engine with lots of power and should haul this palne around with no problems.

    But so far thats it. Other gear Pending Further debate. I want to know what other people have used in this particualr model. Just as i did with my other Nitroplane. and i found that starting a thread on a particualr model and finding out what others have done and getting tips Ect. is the best way to assemble an ARF that will be reliable. and not as much a pain to assemble.





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    < Message edited by linkadrip -- 5/9/2008 7:19:35 AM >

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/9/2008 5:58:27 PM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Hmmm Seems to always be this way. Cant tell me no one has this plane. I guess those that do have it must be ashamed of it, or just don't want to talk about there frustrations with it. I'm hoping that gets a rise out of someone out there to start talking about this plane.

    There is another thread that has a whole 2 pages on the Marie. but it doesn't say much pretty worthless information. Except for the retracts, guess thats the main issue with this plane. Guess i'll just have to use my own judgment in assembly on this one. No one seems to intrested in talking about it..

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/9/2008 6:31:12 PM   
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    Status: offline     		There are a couple of threads here on this plane, that I found some time ago.

    For the most part the purchasers were quite pleased, though everyone seems to have changed out the included gear, and beefed up the mountings a bit by epoxying and adding a bit more wood.

    Since it's a .60, standard servos should be fine, but you could go with inexpensive high torque servos.

    I've used the cheapie Hextronix 5010's on a bunch of planes going up to 1.40 in size that have much larger control surfaces w/o problems.

    And yes the two planes are basically the same.



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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 12:25:15 AM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Thanks Opjose for your input. Cant seem to find the chepo HextroniX servo's have to do some more looking..

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 12:29:55 AM   
    opjose



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    ORIGINAL: linkadrip

    Thanks Opjose for your input. Cant seem to find the chepo HextroniX servo's have to do some more looking..


    Hobby City if NP is out...

    They were formerly known as "TowerPro" servos...

    I've purchased them by the boxful.

    I've never had one fail in flight and I've only had 2 errant ones on over 140 or so of them.





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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 12:35:36 AM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Found it yea lol.. Cool there super cheap i need a bunch of them that is great. Save some Bucks there. now i can get all the servos for both planes i have..

    http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3743

    Order placed for 13 Servos and 2 of the Corona Synthesized Dual-Conv Receiver 8Ch 72Mhz

    Statement:
    Throw away your crystals, say goodbye to glitches! The new Corona synthesized receiver is here!
    This unit will work with existing Synthesized transmitters or crystal transmitters. In fact the accuracy of this receiver will improve the performance of all 72mhz crystal transmitters.

    The new technology put into the synthesized series of Coron receivers is truely outstanding and will certainly make you think twice about upgrading to a more expensive 2.4GHz.

    We shall see. for the price there worth a shot. otherwise i'm gonna have to spend the same amount on one futaba RX or Hitec RX as 2 of these.




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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 2:23:28 AM   
    opjose



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    Status: offline     		I've had very good luck with Corona RX's.

    They have been much more noise immune than say JR 6UL receivers for me.

    I'll have to try the synth version now.

    Thanks.



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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 4:19:42 AM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Well thats good to hear this will be the first time i have bought any off brand RX or servos except for the one that come with chepo stuff like Walkera Helis. So i'm hoping it is a good experience. will definatly make the hobby more enjoyable to get some affordable stuff..that works well. although i am going to be spending quite a bit on this plane just the same. Going to go with Pnematic retract system.

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXES04&P=K

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXET21&P=K

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXES71&P=K

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXES70&P=K

    Dont know if this is really neccessary.
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXES13&P=K

    Or this i have a portable air tank and compressor that i could pressurize the system with so i may wait on this to see if its really neccessary.
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LXET26&P=K

    And the Pitts type muffler i'm thinking about. i dont want to have to magle the cowling to much if i dont have too.
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=001431785&I=LX8681&P=K

    I'm thinking more of going this way instead to keep the cowling cutting down to a minumum. but not to sure about it. Never used an in cowl muffler dont know how it would work out.
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&P=8&I=LXHY74
    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&P=8&I=LXHY77
    Both are optional accessories for the top flight p-51 gold edition kit. So i'm thinking that this plane isnt to much different in size then that one. and can use alot of the same equipment as it does.
    All in good time alot to invest in, So the parts will take time to aquire unless i win the lottery .

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 5:01:51 AM   
    opjose



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    Status: offline     		If you are going with struts why not get the strut ready retracts?

    These have a larger bore hole in the aluminum, that grips the strut itself, instead of a wire.

    It's a much sturdier arrangement for about the same price.



    The on board valve is not needed. You'll be prone to putting in air in after every flight just in case anyway.

    You can use any standard bicycle pump, but remember that the retracts may take up to 90 PSI, so a portable air tank may not do.

    I purchased one of those in cowl mounted barrel mufflers, but I have yet to use it.

    I typically use Pitts style mufflers w/o problems.




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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/10/2008 6:08:46 AM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Looked at the robostrut ready retracts Doesnt look like the ones i need are avaliable.. i have a standard bicycle pump so thats good 2 things i wont need the on board valve and pump. wish they made this set for a 60 size..

    http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXES60&P=ML



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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/11/2008 9:54:20 PM   
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    Status: offline     		I just got this plane last week and am just now getting time to start on it. You are right about the retract servo mount. No location and no wood pcs to work with either but building the mount is no problem.

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/11/2008 10:15:02 PM   
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    Status: offline     		This is my first 60 bird and can't wait to see it fly. I'm going with hitech or JR std bb servos and thinking about a supertigre 90 2 stroke for power. I am refering to the H9 manual . DON'T EVEN LOOK AT THE JOKE THAT CAME WITH THE PLANE. You might want to start by adding a third hinge to the ailerons mine only had 2 but i attatched them anyway i't should be ok. Both of my wheelwells were for the same wing and neither fit at all, i am ordering the retracts and wheelwells from H9 for their 60 P-51D. For now the only thing for sure that will be needed is a larger tank, the one supplied looks to be only an 8 ounce.

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    RE: P-51D Mustang 60~90 - 5/11/2008 10:24:11 PM   
    linkadrip



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    Status: online     		Yes the tank look pretty small. Let me know what size you get that will fit that is bigger. I'm still waiting for the stuff i order for the plane. i havent really dug into it to much yet until i get all the equipment i need. Then if i need other stuff i'll order it as i go. But the tank definetly appears to be small wont fly long on it..

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