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jpjamie -> Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 9:47:53 PM)

Would like to invite anyone who has purchased Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System to start a thread here.
I am interested in how much of a difference the optional high gain antenna makes with the video quality.




Cyberfyn -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 9:50:57 PM)

Yeah, just looking at this myself. Interested in the the Heli application for me..........

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/fpv.htm

Can see it being quite easy to get lost though, or fly out of range [;)]

Ian F.




jpjamie -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 9:52:55 PM)

One of the things I wonder about is your ability to detect or see a stall!




Cyberfyn -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 9:55:20 PM)

Never stalled a helicopter yet [:D] But I see what you mean. It does seem to have good downlink telemetry though, so you can keep an eye on your airspeed.

Ian F.




jpjamie -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 9:56:24 PM)

Intelligent Flight (Australia?) seems to be supplying the onscreen displays:

http://www.intelligentflight.com/Solution.IFOSD.aspx




jpjamie -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 10:02:27 PM)

I recently purchased a cheapo system for $44 online and while it "works" the video quality is less than desirable. That's why I'm interested in learning more here. I plan on chucking the 9 volt Tx battery for a lipo to save on weight. Want to put some kind of video recorder in my Nitro Planes Predator B. Might use a "thumb drive" camcorder like an Aiptek or the Hobby Lobby one.




Cyberfyn -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 10:10:29 PM)

I got one of the cheapo eBay jobs too. Not bad I supose, but not great. I have recently been using this though......

[image]http://www.gizmodo.com.au/images/actioncam-01.jpg[/image]

Takes a two gig SD card and is not too heavy, not for my fleet anyway. I also use is for snowboarding and mountain biking. Tough little bugger.

Ian F.




jpjamie -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/10/2008 10:52:56 PM)

That's a nifty camera, just checked it out Amazon.com. They say it weighs less than a pound, so it would work on my nitro sized aircraft, but not for electric.
Does is have a standard 1/4" threaded tripod mount? Gotta share this with my ultralight buddy (no...we don't fly at the same time...to complicated).




JMSTECH -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/11/2008 7:47:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jpjamie

Would like to invite anyone who has purchased Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System to start a thread here.
I am interested in how much of a difference the optional high gain antenna makes with the video quality.

High gain antennas are better than the standard whip because it is more directional and not susceptible to noise for longer range application. I use my 8db high gain the most because it has strong reception and this greatly improves when you place it 2 inches from the ground. I can fly about 1000meters with no or very little static... unless I fly directly above me ( high gain do not like this.) Higher gain antennas like my 14db is better for longer range (8000 meters) but has a narrow beam therefore it is crucial to aim it at the plane at all time as possible. (Keep in mind the TX has a 3db whip on it.)

For the most the standard set up from Hobby Lobby is perfect way to start since it complies with all the FCC rules and it does not require one to obtain a HAM radio license. Also the camera is a "great" light weight unit. I've tested this in the dark, under bright light situation and it has awesome wide dynamics. Another great feature is the size and weight! I've seen this on board a Lama heli with the same a/v tx on the Hobby Lobby kit. Amazing! ;)




Huntster -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/17/2008 6:11:35 PM)

I see in one of your pix that the back cover is off of your Tx and that you use AA's to power it. Caution!!!! If your Batts fall out... there goes EVERYTHING!!!!! I was in Japan once watching a friend hand off his plane to a friend and the batts all fell out and that was the end!!!!! Nice stable looking set up on your heli!!!!




JMSTECH -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/17/2008 6:54:50 PM)

Actually that is not me flying the heli but Mark Harris of Intelligent Flight. I'm the guy in the black jacket and video goggles. :)




cobratraxxas69 -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/18/2008 7:23:00 AM)

What would be a good electric plane to fly with this system? A plane that can reach relatively high altitudes (1000 to 2000 feet).




JMSTECH -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/18/2008 10:22:06 AM)

The Easystar has achieved this, but you might want to look into a Multiplex Cularus or Easyglider. All proven for long range fpv. My buddy gets about 8Km on his Easystar, another reported 27km on his Cularus. ;)




bkdavy -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/20/2008 4:19:42 PM)

Looking at the manual, it doesn't say the output power of the transmitter. Looking at the FAQ, it talks about the transmitter power not exceeding 10 mW, which means the system will only maintain contact at very close range. The 1000 meters advertised will only be under absolutely perfect conditions. I had a similar system (in fact the reciever looked identical) that would only maintain the link at less than 500 feet. There are also no specs on the camera. I would say if you're serious about FPV, this is probably not the system to buy. The transmitter makes all the difference.

Brad




cobratraxxas69 -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/21/2008 1:12:45 AM)

How are these guys?

http://hobbywireless.com/cart/




JMSTECH -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/21/2008 4:39:50 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bkdavy

Looking at the manual, it doesn't say the output power of the transmitter. Looking at the FAQ, it talks about the transmitter power not exceeding 10 mW, which means the system will only maintain contact at very close range. The 1000 meters advertised will only be under absolutely perfect conditions. I had a similar system (in fact the reciever looked identical) that would only maintain the link at less than 500 feet. There are also no specs on the camera. I would say if you're serious about FPV, this is probably not the system to buy. The transmitter makes all the difference.

Brad

10mW is a legal number for transmitting and when a mainstream company like Hobby-Lobby is starting to sell FPV gear, they will have to comply with the law. So yes 10mW is relatively low in power but enough for line of sight. However if you seek more power that will give you numbers in miles, then try the 500mW or 1 watt set up with a good patch antenna like a 8 or 14 db patch. Keep in mind the higher the numbers for patch antenna, the narrow the reception beam. So I recommend for starters try a 8 db patch and place it low to the ground, this way you can fly for miles and not have to constantly point it to the plane.

Hobbywireless ( www.hobbywireless.com - Wilson), New Generation Hobbies (www.nghobbies.com - Zoltan Pitner) Intelligent Flight (www.intelligentflight.com -Mark Harris) are all well respected venders who supply quality equipment with excellent customer support! I've used them all and read all the post, they have the least or nil negative customer feed back.




Kaltag -> RE: Hobby Lobby's Pilot View FPV System (5/30/2008 5:55:27 PM)

Watching the videos on hobby lobby's page, I dont know this for sure but I feel the video's could be misleading. I am using a 200mw system and I cant get that great of video clarity without a little break up. I have used a 10mw system and there is just no way I can get my video that clear. I feel the videos are misleading to potential buyers. Each video should have something explaining that certain set up. Even if they were using the hobby lobby system, maybe they were using a diversity reciever or specail antenna. My thoughts are that the planes in the vid are not using the advertised equipment.




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