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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 5/31/2008 5:00:14 AM   
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Hey Def,

You are welcome, we are glad to help...I like your optimistic attitude..."more crashes could happen" LOL...they will, they will !! But half the fun is in the rebuilding!!

Good luck, let me know when the new blades come in!

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/1/2008 1:36:16 PM   
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So I was looking around on some heli stores online and I was looking on heliproz.com and I was looking on under spare parts for the cp pro and under the parts it lists the Thunder Power 3 cell 1320 mah battery as if it would work and fit with the cp pro, has anyone used this battery pack in the cp pro?

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/1/2008 5:14:09 PM   
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Hey Def,

I checked out that battery at Heliproz, is it the one that is out of stock? I also found it listed under CP/CPP parts, so it must fit. By the picture, it looks wider and shorter, but it may fit OK, it probably does, or it would not be listed under CPP parts.

My biggest concern is the connectors, it comes without the battery connector, you would have to get the proper connector for it, it's called a JST connector, most LHS have them...

But, the next question is the balance connector, I don't know if it's the same as the Eflite one, and if it will work with your stock charger without an adapter.

Also, as evedreamer mentioned in a post a while back, the weight might be an issue, if it's much heavier, it will make the heli nose heavy, and heavier overall. You may be able to compensate by locating the battery as far back as possible in the battery mount.

Good luck with it, how has your flying been going?

Did the new blades come in yet?

Have a nice weekend,

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/1/2008 8:54:00 PM   
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blades have not come in yet, which is a shame lol but im sure by monday or tuesday they will be here, just installed the new tail motor and let me tell you, it seems like it is alot stronger then the one that came with it for some reason, maybe the one that came with it was shot or damaged in shipping, but Im dying to take the cp pro out it is sooo nice out but I have no blades lol

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/1/2008 9:49:53 PM   
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Hey Def,

AHHHH, nothing like a new tail motor to wake up your tired CPP! I know every time I put a new tail motor on mine, it flies like an new heli. They sort of die a slow death, and you sometimes don't realize how weak they are getting until you put a new one on, and then you realize how bad the old one was.

I was flying my CPP outside yesterday, and it was flying really, really well. I have been flying it in the shop at work, and there is just not enough room in there. As you discovered, it's a lot more fun to fly out in an open space.

I almost had what could have been a major crash, but caught it in time. I went to fly, and I usually look the heli over, sort of a pre-flight inspection....and I caught it...the little pin that holds the tail blade and gear on was broken, and the end of it was just dangling there. Had I flown it like that, the tail motor and gear would have fallen off in mid-flight, resulting in a loss of tail control, which in my case, would have probably caused a crash! I have heard of some people saving it when they lose the tail rotor, but most end up in some sort of a crash from it happening. The heli will bascially go into a very, very fast spin...and it's hard to land safely like that!

That is a shame that you are having great weather, and no blades! Hopefully, you ordered a few spare sets of blades? I have about 5 sets of blades for my CPP, some new, some used. It's one of those things that you KNOW you will need, sooner or later! I also "stock" an extra tail motor, it's new in the bag..LOL

I had to go get that pin for the tail, it comes with the gear, pin, and little tubing thing that holds it all together. I'm pretty sure that I broke it on a hard landing. It's really easy to fix, so I''l be back up in the air with it soon.

We are having a big storm right now, but maybe it will clear up and be great, like last night did...

Good luck with the CPP, and the new blades, when they come in.

Did you do any more research on the 1320 battery?

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 1:43:21 AM   
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I bought a extra tail motor, tail blade, 2 extra sets of main blades, extra pins so far, I didn't get a chance to look into that battery yet, I might just buy more e-flite ones, not sure yet but I deff need at least one more battery for the cp two isnt enough.

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 3:09:01 AM   
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Hey Def,

That sounds like a pretty good start on the spare parts. I also bought a new tail rotor, but have never needed it, they are pretty tough. I also, strangely, have never broken one of the pins for the main shaft/rotor head yet.

Those blades are pretty tough,(the HD1141's) I had a hard landing today, and another tailboom strike. (that's when the main rotor blades actually hit the tailboom) I am a little concerned, because I never was having those before, with the Eflite blades. These blades are heavier, and I think more prone to causing a tailboom strike. The main reason I had a hard landing was the wind, I got a sudden downdraft, and it pushed the heli down to the ground quickly. I will just have to be more careful. The blades only sustained very minor damage, just a bit splintered a little bit where they hit the tailboom, they are very tough blades!

I have to take a look at it later tonight, to check for any other hidden damage, but it flew OK after the incident. You should always look over the heli after an accident of any type for damage you might not have noticed right off...

Yeah, I would do some more research on that battery, plus it looks like it's on backorder anyways. To be honest, flying beyond 10 minutes is pretty stressful on the motor, they get pretty hot after a good 10 minute flight....so maybe the Eflite batteries are not such a bad idea...just to let the motor cool between packs...the main motor might last longer that way. I have had good luck with the stock packs, except the one I totally abused, and ruined. I can still use it, it's just low on voltage, and the heli is pretty sluggish with it in there.

Yeah, two batteries are not enough, I have 4 for the CPP, and 5 for my B400...so it makes it worthwhile when I go out somewhere to fly. The only bummer is waiting for the motor/ESC to cool down, and it's only going to get worse as the weather gets hotter! That is where my "spare" B400 will come into play...

Hope you get the CPP back up in the air soon!

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 3:16:22 AM   
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Hey Def,

Well, that was easy. No other damage. Last time I bent the spindle, and broke the servo gears. All is OK this time...so don't worry too much about tailboom strikes...just try not to land hard like I did. It wouldn't have happened at all had I not been trying to fly in what I knew was too much wind. I was having a great time before the wind caught it though!

Have fun,

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 3:32:34 AM   
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Yeah I prob won't be doing much more the hovering and very little forward flight for awhile, trying to take my time not rushing anything, im pretty much picking up as many spare parts as I can just incase, just cant wait to get up and flying again, the new cp pro 2 looks really nice, saw it online the other day

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 4:13:49 AM   
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Hey Def,

That sounds like a plan, just take your time, and you'll enjoy it more. Rushing, and crashing all the time will only discourage you, plus every time the heli is down for parts (as you now know), that is time lost practicing. Spare parts are a great idea for the same reason. Down time=less practice/fun time....

Yeah, I just KNOW I am not going to be able to resist the new CCP 2 when my LHS gets one...even though it is a motor driven tail, I still will want to see how it flies! I am hoping that the combination of the new radio, main motor, direct drive tail motor, and gyro will make it a much more capable heli....it certainly should....we'll have to see, I suppose!

Have fun with the CPP!

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 8:19:40 PM   
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I saw it for 250 thats what they said its going to go for, looks like a nice price tag for what it has, it looks really nice to me but I know nothing really about helis lol

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 8:35:39 PM   
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Hey Def,

Yeah, I think that's going to be the price, $250. It seems like you get alot for that $250, especially considering I paid that much for my CPP back in March!!

There are big improvements, for sure.

I am just not sure I really want another motor driven tail heli or not...

There is an ARF (almost ready to fly) T-Rex 450 SA at my local hobby shop for $250...might be money better spent for me...

Even with all the improvments on the CPP 2, it's still got a motor driven tail...belt driven tails are the way to go!

I dunno, we'll see. I will probably be weak, and give in and get one anyways!! LOL

Hope you get your blades soon.

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 9:01:40 PM   
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whats the difference between belt driven and motor driven, I know one has a motor and one is belt driven, but whats the advantage of a belt driven, is it more stable?

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 9:27:59 PM   
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Hey Def,

Yeah, the belt driven tails are much more stable. The main reason being, is the tail rotor is constantly being driven, all the time, vs the tail motor setup, like on our CPP's is a variable speed motor, which takes some time to speed up and slow down. If you notice, sometimes, on a left turn, the tail motor will be going very slowly, or even stop.

With a belt driven tail, the rotor speed stays the same (vs the main rotor speed, since they are connected by the belt) most all the time. The way the belt driven tail rotors work is by changing the pitch of the blades...very much like changing the pitch of the main blades.

This results in much faster, more powerful, and more stable tail control over a motor driven tail.

The difference in flying is like night and day, really. There is no comparison between the way my CPP flies to the B400, the B400's tail stays put, exactly where I have the left stick...all the time. None of this wagging around like the CPP's tend to do. Makes it so much nicer to fly...

Hope that helps you understand the difference!

Glenn

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RE: buying first blade, whats the best? - 6/2/2008 10:03:57 PM   
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deff does, I have been looking at a esky belt driven heli for my next purchase down the road

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