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gsfreak -> Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 1:06:26 AM)

Hi, I have a STS 21b and it doesnt have enough low-end power as top-end power. I have tried tuning every kind of way and It's my pipe. I want a new pipe and i want the jammin pipes but i dont know what one. I know the JP-1 is for low to mid and JP-2 is mid to high and 3 and 4 are well-rounded. I have heard the JP-2 is the way to go for me? I have heard they have as much low-end as JP-1 and has a little more top end? Is that true? I dont want the 3 or 4 because of price (I'm getting one used on Ebay).
so please tell me which one to get im in a hurry so please help!!!!

thanks



hrdcoreglf -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 1:48:09 AM)

What type of vehicle? What type of track/surface? What is you gearing set up? Need a little more info.



gsfreak -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 1:50:45 AM)

im on a shorter track with a 14t cluthch bell in a jammin x1crt



hrdcoreglf -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:00:58 AM)

I personally would use my JP-1 on a small/tight/technical track with a 14t CB. What is your longest straight run on the track? You could drop to a 13t CB. I am running Go .21 R-spec 3-port race modded in my X1 CR with a JP-3 and a 13t cb for a med track w/tight lanes.



gsfreak -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:09:30 AM)

my longest straight is maybe 50 ft? thats just a guess. my top end is good im not worried about that. I just bought a jp-2 for $35 i couldn't pass it up. You think it'll help low end at all?



JB COMP -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:17:43 AM)

Get a 12T CB that should help out alot!

I'm running a 13T CB and my track is tight (40' x 85') Its got alot of tight stuff (like in and out of corners with a 20-30 foot run) with a 85' straight away.

12T and 1.1 springs should help out alot.

You got a picture or video?



gsfreak -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:27:46 AM)

all i got is this for ya. sorry I'll try to record it.



JB COMP -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:42:19 AM)

Sorry, I meant a picture of the track.



*FULL-REVS* -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 7:06:47 AM)

im sure they recomend the sts pipes for there motors..... chuck a 13T clutch bell alloy shoes and 1.1 springs on it.... that will give ya some bottom end poke [:D] if the clutch is to "snappy" with that set up put one carbon shoe with a 1.0 spring in there to smooth it out a lill [8D]



supertib -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 1:49:55 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: gsfreak

Hi, I have a STS 21b and it doesnt have enough low-end power as top-end power. I have tried tuning every kind of way and It's my pipe. I want a new pipe and i want the jammin pipes but i dont know what one. I know the JP-1 is for low to mid and JP-2 is mid to high and 3 and 4 are well-rounded. I have heard the JP-2 is the way to go for me? I have heard they have as much low-end as JP-1 and has a little more top end? Is that true? I dont want the 3 or 4 because of price (I'm getting one used on Ebay).
so please tell me which one to get im in a hurry so please help!!!!

thanks



a .21B is a pretty weak motor, and IMHO is not enough motor for a Truggy....it works somewhat in a 8T but even then its one of the weakest mills on the track.....The dyno results of the .21B were also pretty poor.... IMHO I would buy a stronger engine, no amount of pipe and clutch setup is going to make that motor seem strong...



slayerphonics -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 1:55:09 PM)

i've heard STS had a funky timing on them, and a select few pipes really open them up, sorry I don't have the info. But I know some one here on RCU does,



JB COMP -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 2:25:47 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slayerphonics

i've heard STS had a funky timing on them, and a select few pipes really open them up, sorry I don't have the info. But I know some one here on RCU does,


Mine is not hard to tune at all, actually its one of the easiest engines to tune I that I've owned (beside my mach 427)



gsfreak -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 5:53:32 PM)

i love the engine thats not the problem.It is asimple engine to tune. Supertib... im sorry but i might have to say myself that u are completely wrong. My sts can keep up with the v spec at my track. It is insane. It blows your little piccos away. sorry ( the mach 427 and 28 can keep up with it. one of the best engines out there.



gsfreak -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 5:58:20 PM)

oh heres a pic of my track





supertib -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 6:22:58 PM)

heres a modded .21B vs a modded V-Spec....... as you can see the .21B has no issue keeping up [8|][8|][8|][8|]

[IMG]http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m307/stitchdoctor/STS21BTVSABVspec.jpg[/IMG]



chedster -> RE: Help me out quick!!! (5/12/2008 9:50:25 PM)

Gsfreak, While supertib may have been harsh calling your motor weak for a truggy he is more or less right. Even with the perfect pipe your not going to have the same low end torque of a higher end race mill. Gear it down to a 12T if your track is short and drive it like you stole it!



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