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rc bugman -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/18/2008 12:35:25 PM)

Hi,

I would suggest that karolh's gas does not have alcohol in it. The moisture condensenses from the air and accumulates in the tank. In the North where it gets cold, we put alcohol in the gas to suspend the water in the tank so it passes through the engine and out the exhaust. It is called "gas line antifreeze". Otherwise, the water freezes in the fuel line and the engine don't run and you are stuck in a cold place.

Perhaps, if Karolh added a small amt of methanol to his fuel, he would eliminate the moisture accumulation in the tank.

Elson




karolh -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/18/2008 5:38:55 PM)

I switched from a two line system as I seemed to have the knack of getting crud into my fuel via firewall mounted Quick Fill connectors I used. Going to three lines eliminated that problem, but as it turned out caused another. So far I have not experienced any problems with the additional clunk interfering with the feed.

Karol




show871 -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/21/2008 3:55:04 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Pat Roy

Sorry[:)] but the photo I needed for more input was on a different laptop and I wasn't where it was at the time. Brass reacting with residual oil after a prolonged period sitting in an empty tank does that. I use what's in the picture. It will work up to at least a 115cc engine and probably a lot more. You can't get any more fuel in a carb than what the size of the carb inlet permits and this filter equals or exceeds the size of most carb inlets. Just like fuel tubing, where anything larger than the medium stuff is a waste of money.

This filter has a nasty habit of eliminating bubbles in the fuel line and picking up every last drop of gas before the engine runs dry[;)] I use one in the gas can and one in the plane. Don't need no stinking paper filters[8D]


Where would a good place be to look for one of these locally?????




RTK -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/21/2008 5:14:56 AM)

Go to any local lawnmower/saw shop. That is what all the weedies/chainsaws use




vertical grimmace -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/21/2008 6:41:30 AM)

This is one of the reasons I like the Bennett built tanks. The fittings that come with them are great for a 3 line setup and also get you away from the pesky stoppers. IMO once you use a Bennett tank you will never go back. I just wish they had a 24oz size.




show871 -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/21/2008 1:11:07 PM)

Thanks RTK

Yea, my motor has msc rpm bursts here and there, I really hope this solves the problem!

871




karolh -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/21/2008 1:24:17 PM)

Using felt filtered clunks are really the way to go with as by themselves they eliminate quite a few of our usual tank related problems.

Karol




OldRookie -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/22/2008 5:11:39 AM)

I'm just mentioning this about the felt Walbro filters.
I thought it would be a good idea for my twin OS 46 powered plane. I was going to break in the engines, and found out that the filter would restrict the fuel enough, that I couldn't richen out a 46 size engine. I'm only going to use them for gas from now on.

Greg




captinjohn -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/22/2008 2:38:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rc bugman

Hi,

I would suggest that karolh's gas does not have alcohol in it. The moisture condensenses from the air and accumulates in the tank. In the North where it gets cold, we put alcohol in the gas to suspend the water in the tank so it passes through the engine and out the exhaust. It is called "gas line antifreeze". Otherwise, the water freezes in the fuel line and the engine don't run and you are stuck in a cold place.

Perhaps, if Karolh added a small amt of methanol to his fuel, he would eliminate the moisture accumulation in the tank.

Elson

I am not so sure adding methanol to the fuel would help? I have seen the same green crud build up in spots with airplanes setup completely for glow fuel...with lots of methanol! Best Regards Capt,n




rc bugman -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/23/2008 2:23:18 AM)

Hi,

Too much methanol as in alcohol based fuels adsorb water. A little methanol in gasoline allows the water to remain in suspension and it is "burned" with the gasoline. The OH end of the alcohol "binds" with the HOH of water and the CH3 end of the alcohol "binds" with the hydrocarbon (gasoline). This allows the water to remain in suspension within a hydrocarbon like gasoline.

Elson




The Raven -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/25/2008 12:02:25 PM)

A late response but....

Given that most gasoline powered engines use some brass fittings (take a look at any carb equipped car) it's not the gasoline affecting the brass. Odds are it's something else in the fuel (eg. oil or alcohol) or the clunk is not brass at all.




captinjohn -> RE: Brass clunk in gas fuel. (5/26/2008 3:52:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: rc bugman

Hi,

Too much methanol as in alcohol based fuels adsorb water. A little methanol in gasoline allows the water to remain in suspension and it is "burned" with the gasoline. The OH end of the alcohol "binds" with the HOH of water and the CH3 end of the alcohol "binds" with the hydrocarbon (gasoline). This allows the water to remain in suspension within a hydrocarbon like gasoline.

Elson

RC bugman: You therory sounds right on...I missed that...my bad. Capt,n[sm=red_smile.gif]




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