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Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 7:51:10 PM)
I just read a great article in rotorworld on the belt cp. Basically, the reviewer states this is not a 3D heli, it is not really designed for it out of the box and that is not the market they are trying to capture but for the price point it does the job it's supposed to do and considering the fact that it costs 50% more in england than it does here he was very happy with it. As stated in the past, I don't understand the number of ppl that complain that the belt cp does not fly as well as their (place name of $500 plus heli here)... The point is that it was never designed to, the belt cp is about 20% to 25% the cost of a trex 450se v2 rtf (w/ radio)... it's like someone buying a chevy cavalier and complaining that it doesn't perform as well as a ford mustang... sure the cars are the same size, both have motors, both have steering wheels but they do not perform even close to each other. I have recommended the belt cp in the past and will do so again in the future. If someone comes on here and says "i want a cp heli that's under $200" then the belt cp is going to be my first recommendation everytime. upgrade the esc and gyro and it turns into a great, economical heli.

Fly To Chill -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 8:37:12 PM)
Druss I agree with you 100% , My belt flys really good with a little upgreading. cf blades telebee gyro e-sky metel head dx6i trex canopy everything else is stock, im not doing 3d yet but up to now it works for me.

planepounder -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 9:04:20 PM)
Hey fly, I never want to argue about " the best" heli, I thinks it is great that we all fly different stuff, but your list in the previous post is probably in the same price range a Rex SA. If you buy a Belt for $200.00 then "throw away the radio" you are only ahead of the Rex with the servos, skip the metal head buy some servos and a battery put the Telebee on the Rex and fly for the same money

Fly To Chill -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 10:54:20 PM)
I had the dx6i ,it came with my b400 , I know that my trex 600e it a great heli and rite now im in the market for a trx450 se v2 ,Now that i can fly i wont be so worried about crashing it, so for me the belt cp has served it purpose a great trainer and the same gose for the hbk2, when i started flying 5 months ago i knew nothing about set up esc gyro's etc....... I could not see taking a 800.,00 heli and useing it for a learning tool ,I wasn't even sure I would stay in the hobby so then i would have been stuck with a 800.00 pile of cf and some electronics , now i know i will keep flying and stay in the hobby i bought my trex600 and im looking for the best 450 heli money can buy, the trex 450 and i cant wait to set that thing up , but i will still keep my belt cp and hbk2 , it always nice to have a cheep heli to try new tricks on.

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 10:58:31 PM)
Plane, I think you need to realize that he did fly the heli stock for awhile so the initial cost to enter was still only $200. The upgrades came later. A trex 450sa w/ motor & esc is $240, add gyro, servos, and radio and you're at $550. Did he spend the same total? quite close but it was not all initial investment. I think some ppl are still having trouble with the entire concept of an entry level RTF which can then be upgraded as your skills grow. If you had told fly that he had to put in $550 to just try the hobby he probably wouldn't have. But, for $200, sure will. Then as he gets better he starts to upgrade.... that's what we all do. The guy that can afford the 450sa at first will probably end up with it upgraded to a 450se v2 within 2 years. I started just over 2 years ago with a lama v4, i now own 10 helis, 4 of them worth over $1000 (not including the radio) but if you had told me i had to spend $1000 for my first heli I would have walked out of the store (which I did until I found esky online).

Fly To Chill -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 11:06:53 PM)
Druss I flew my belt cp stock for a least 2 months or so , i wanted to start flying helis a long time ago but the high cost of helis and parts kept me away.The 189.00 dollar price lured me in.[:D][:D][:D] now im hooked. im not so sure that was a good thing [:D]

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 11:29:24 PM)
I completely agree with you buddy. My wife was going to buy me one a few years agao but ended up in some local hobby shop that only sold eflite and didn't want to spend that much.

nuttcaze -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/23/2008 11:47:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Druss As stated in the past, I don't understand the number of ppl that complain that the belt cp does not fly as well as their (place name of $500 plus heli here)... The point is that it was never designed to, the belt cp is about 20% to 25% the cost of a trex 450se v2 rtf (w/ radio)... it's like someone buying a chevy cavalier and complaining that it doesn't perform as well as a ford mustang... sure the cars are the same size, both have motors, both have steering wheels but they do not perform even close to each other. [X(]Whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa..... Hey now, Cavaliers are my absolute fav cars, right next to cadillac's, how dare you compare a cavalier[8D] to a lowly mustang[:'(]? Now a cavalier to a Cadillac, thats a good comparison, lol, just messin', but those really are my fav cars, prob why I like the HBFP so much, its the true cavalier of helis [:D]

HowNot2fly -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 12:32:59 AM)
yep, and the little 2ch IR helis are the kia`s of the helis [sm=lol.gif], i know i have one and i still fly it once in while[:D]

Empty Wallet -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 12:49:21 AM)
Give it up Plane. I have tried to make the same point you are, with no luck. I will try again Lets keep it simple. Lets assume you put all the same parts on the trex (or clone) as you do a belt CP RTF kit. The only difference then is the kit. Belt cp- $90 for that you get a plastic frame, plastic head, plastic tail, etc. CopterX SE-$205 for that you get carbon fiber frame, carbon fiber blades, a full cnc aluminum head and tail. Thats $115 dollars difference. You will spend more than that trying to upgrade a belt. And if thats not the market the belt is intended to compete against, then why sell the "upgrades" at all. If you really want to understand my point, lets compare apples to apples. CopterX SE-$205 freight INCLUDED. Belt-CP fiber edition- $269 you pay the freight! The Belt costs MORE than a CopterX Essplain that one Lucy[>:]

HowNot2fly -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:04:05 AM)
ok, everyone just get the rex and get it over with[sm=wink_smile.gif], sorry , i just had to

planepounder -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:04:20 AM)
Ok We are all on the same page! I started with a HBFP probably the best out of the box heli ever(and its variants)! Next a Belt, it served its purpose, somebody gave me an HBK2. I struggled with the latter 2, I think because of the E-sky radios. In the meantime a Rappy .30 came my way and wow!! all of a sudden I wasnt fighting with but FLYING (OK, hovering) a heli. Then I bought a Rex, I swear if I had had this heli after the HBFP I would have been way ahead money and flying wise. BTW the Rex SA is 199.95 with motor and ESC from Horizon. One thing guys we all share the brotherhood of helis, I also fly fixed wing and love it, but heli folks are special!!

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:10:40 AM)
LOL, Empty, either you just like to misunderstand me or just aren't reading what I'm writing. I've never mentioned the CF edition of the belt cp.... MY POINT is that the stock belt cp RTF is a good value and a good way to enter a very expensive hobby period... I don't want to talk about upgrades, CF, CNC or anything else.... stock belt cp RTF is $200 a good way to enter hobby... I can say it again if you don't understand. And I'd like to clarify something here, I OWN A TREX 450SE, I also own the HDX 450SE V3 (a clone of the trex like the copterx is). I still fly my belt cp more than either.

nuttcaze -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:10:40 AM)
just placed an order for a T-Rex right now [8\|]not, lol ESky forums

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:20:43 AM)
I think that we're just at the point of agreeing to not agree. He had one bad experience and decides esky helis aren't worth it. His loss... hope he has fun in the trex forum.

nuttcaze -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:24:04 AM)
I'm trying to talk myself out of buying my last heli, another E-Smart, was gonna buy a better car but with gas prices at $4+ a gallon I don't care what I drive I only go back and forth to work now anyways so... why not add to the fun[8\|]

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:26:36 AM)
lol, you're just trying to pass my total... well you won't because I'm getting a trex 500 here right away which will bump me to 12 if I include the lama v3.

HowNot2fly -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:37:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Druss lol, you're just trying to pass my total... well you won't because I'm getting a trex 500 here right away which will bump me to 12 if I include the lama v3. why not get 365 helis?,that way you will have one heli a day [:D], sorry just havin` fun on esky forums

nuttcaze -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:38:38 AM)
lol, nah, gonna stop with the ARTF's and RTF's for now (well after my 2nd E-Smart), still have a few projects I'd like to complete so I'd prob be up to 9 or 10 then, but unless the ESky 900 comes out at a cheaper price, I'll just be sticking with what I got for now [:D], instead I need to start stock piling parts. One of the other things I'm trying to decide on do I want to buy another ES600 and the parts to fly it or just the kit and a crap load of parts, hummm choices choices [:D]

HowNot2fly -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:51:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: nuttcaze lol, nah, gonna stop with the ARTF's and RTF's for now (well after my 2nd E-Smart), still have a few projects I'd like to complete so I'd prob be up to 9 or 10 then, but unless the ESky 900 comes out at a cheaper price, I'll just be sticking with what I got for now [:D], instead I need to start stock piling parts. One of the other things I'm trying to decide on do I want to buy another ES600 and the parts to fly it or just the kit and a crap load of parts, hummm choices choices [:D] just get the rex 700 , convert it to electric and put esky sticker on it [:D]

Empty Wallet -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 1:59:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Druss MY POINT is that the stock belt cp RTF is a good value and a good way to enter a very expensive hobby period... But its not. And that is the point. Its not my one bad experience. Its the fact that anyone who buys one will have to replace the TX, the RX, the gyro, and the ESC before you can trust flying the thing. You said so yourself it was my fault for for flying it knowing that any one of these items are likely to be defective right out of the box.

Empty Wallet -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 2:01:33 AM)
Ya know, I bought an Exceed Eagle 50 for $100 and it worked THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. right out of the box

fly600RR -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 2:04:17 AM)
Mine is all stock , been hovering for 3 months now no problem yet.

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 2:05:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Empty Wallet quote: ORIGINAL: Druss MY POINT is that the stock belt cp RTF is a good value and a good way to enter a very expensive hobby period... But its not. And that is the point. Its not my one bad experience. Its the fact that anyone who buys one will have to replace the TX, the RX, the gyro, and the ESC before you can trust flying the thing. You said so yourself it was my fault for for flying it knowing that any one of these items are likely to be defective right out of the box. Where are you getting your information? I flew my belt cp stock for 4 months until I got enough heli's to justify a computer radio... just because YOU think that you need to replace all those does not mean that everyone does. The ONLY thing that I would suggest replacing before flying would be the esc, mine was fine but yes some had issues... so $25 more.... now you're at $225, still a bargain. I think the thing you need to realize here is that most ppl don't write about something that is working well, for every story you see on here about someone with a problem, there are 500 out there that don't have that problem. your esc didn't work, do you really think that every person for whom the esc did work is coming on here and starting a thread going "my esc worked"??? It's human nature to complain about something that doesn't work but also human nature not to say anything when it does. You're blowing your one experience (which from what you write was refunded anyway) out of proportion. I am tired of dealing with someone as close minded as you, continue to try and argue your point but go do it in the trex forum where they'll agree with you.

Druss -> RE: POOF! DOWN IN FLAMES!!! (5/24/2008 2:23:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Empty Wallet Ya know, I bought an Exceed Eagle 50 for $100 and it worked THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO. right out of the box So did my lama v4 so did my esky king2 so did my belt cp .... what's your point?

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