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Begin - Air....Cessna 182 Cmments Please! - 5/14/2008 6:06:00 PM   
me 02


 

Posts: 42
Joined: 6/19/2004
From: Waldorf, MD, USA
Status: offline 		I would be grateful for any comments from pilots who
have flown these 2 planes from Parkflyers. I have flown
a 2 channel Firebird(crashed), and a T Hawk(returned
to factory for mechanical problems). I am not a newbie,
but havent mastered rc flying either. I considerd getting
a S Cub;but prefer a 4 channel plane for my trainer. I
have heard the B Air is a good trainer, but is underpowered
with the stock battery, as well as excessive takeoff distances.
Yes..I want to practise takeoffs and landings..so the E Star
from Multiplex is out.
I also considered the Cessna 182 from Parkflyers also. I
have heard that there are some construction problems with
it;something about the rudder and or elevator. Also..it is a
hassel when you need to replace parts in a crash. In addi-
tion, a plane wirth a pusher prop seems better in light of
crashes during training. Please, anyone with extensive
with these planes..I would appreciate any advise.
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RE: Begin - Air....Cessna 182 Cmments Please! - 5/15/2008 3:19:23 AM   
jmir


 

Posts: 1016
Joined: 4/19/2005
From: Laurinburg, NC, USA
Status: offline 		My advice for you is to deal with larger, reputable companies with a proven high customer service level.
Both Parkzone and E-flite have great electric trainers with readily available parts and great customer support.
I purchased the Cessna 182 and the Edge 540 from Parkflyers. Both planes flew well, especially the Cessna 182 and was generally satisfied with them even though I did not get much help from them. Since then, I've flown Parkzone's J-3 Cub, Stryker 27B and 27C, and Typhoon as well as E-flite's MiniFuntana X, Extra 260, and Edge 540. Parkzone and E-flite are both well ahead of Parkflyers from my experience.



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RE: Begin - Air....Cessna 182 Cmments Please! - 5/15/2008 1:20:42 PM   
Leo L


 

Posts: 710
Joined: 10/12/2005
From: Flushing, NY, USA
Status: offline 		Hi me02,

Of the planes that you selected, the BeginAir is by far the better choice for you to learn to fly with. While its not the best plane available, its a fairly decent flyer and is crash-worthy. The Parkflyers Cessna 182, which is manufactured, and sold on e-bay, by ArtTech, has a very split following. Half of the flyers love the plane and half absolutely hate it. However, almost everyone agrees that: 1) its a very fragile plane and needs substantial reinforcement, particularly the wing and the front landing gear; 2) the electronics are terrible and need to be replaced; 3) it looks fabulous. Its available in two versions: brushed and brushless. The brushed version is severely underpowered; the newer brushless version corrects this problem.

I agree with jmir that you would be much better off going with a quality manufacturer. I know that you don't want to consider the PZ SuperCub, but its, without doubt, the best plane available on the market for learning how to fly. Most beginner planes get crashed and repaired so much that by the time that you are a decent intermediate level flyer, you need to buy a new plane or completely rebuild your original. For this reason, I don't think that you should rule out starting with a 3-channel plane. You'll spend a lot more time flying and less time repairing than if you start with a 4-channel right from the beginning. As you get better, you can always modify the SC to have ailerons (check out the threads and you'll find that its one of the most popular mods). You don;t have to rule out the EasyStar either. I've seen several that were modified to have landing gear, and others that have a brushless motor and enough power to take off from grass without any landing gear at all. (Looks like a sea-plane taking off except that there is no water.)

If you are absolutely dead set to start with a 4-channel plane, consider the following planes, all of which are better than the selections you listed from ParkFlyers, listed in order of preference and ease of flying:
1) ParkZone T-28 Trojan
2) Multiplex MiniMagistar (Minimag)
3) HobbyLobby Wind Dragon
4) GWS E-starter

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