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Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/15/2008 4:34:09 PM   
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I purchased my first Carbon Fiber prop. Its a PT model's 23X8. The information sheet says it was balanced during manufacturing. I havent put it on the balancer yet. My question is: The sheet says not to alter in any way. What do I do if it needs balancing?

Thanks for any input
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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/15/2008 4:59:38 PM   
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Add a dab of paint or clear fingernail polish to the light tip.
That way you're not jeopardizing the structural integrity of the prop.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/15/2008 10:11:25 PM   
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http://www.downonthedeck.com/videos_instruction.htm has a nice simple "how to" video on this subject.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/16/2008 1:06:07 PM   
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thanks for the input guys....I used that video...that worked great...the prop came from the factory tip to tip balanced....used that velcro on the hub trick...worked great....Thanks again


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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/17/2008 11:18:16 AM   
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Hi!"
Of course you can sand it to balance i!
Remember ...This isn't rocket science!

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 5/17/2008 10:11:21 PM   
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Jan, exactly what part of breathing carbon dust do you like best?

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/11/2008 7:27:53 AM   
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I like the part where my nose bleeds for hours, hurts for weeks, and I get that light-headed feeling reminiscent of sniffing glue.
FYI, I've never inhaled carbon dust....I've always looked out for that.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/11/2008 1:16:07 PM   
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Jan, exactly what part of breathing carbon dust do you like best?


As Jan says, this is not rocket science. Sand it with wet sandpaper, DUH!

If the prop is balanced with paint on the tips the paint will eventially wear of, no more balanced prop.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/11/2008 3:14:55 PM   
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If the manufacturer says the prop is balanced then it should be balanced no?

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 3:36:18 AM   
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I've been flying for going on 10 years now. I've run engines from 4 stroke 52, to twins, to gassers, to big Saito's. I have one Saito 65 thats been run so much throughout the years it amazes me how strong it still is and it has had countless props replaced. ( I learned how to fly a Cub with this one, many broken props)

I've never balanced one prop. I've never had any bearings go out in any of these engines. They all run great and have had many prop changes. I can not see how a " dab of fingernail polish" or a piece of velcro can make any difference at all.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 11:25:10 AM   
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It is best to always balance your prop, if nothing else it is cheap insurance. It is the similar scenario to "should you shake your gallon of glow fuel before filling the tank"? Answer: why not. As far as using fingernail polish, that is fine, just recheck it on occasion and rebalance as needed.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 11:33:52 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hill202

I've been flying for going on 10 years now. I've run engines from 4 stroke 52, to twins, to gassers, to big Saito's. I have one Saito 65 thats been run so much throughout the years it amazes me how strong it still is and it has had countless props replaced. ( I learned how to fly a Cub with this one, many broken props)

I've never balanced one prop. I've never had any bearings go out in any of these engines. They all run great and have had many prop changes. I can not see how a " dab of fingernail polish" or a piece of velcro can make any difference at all.



Actually, those who have balanced props in their years in the hobby have no problem seeing how well painting the light blade works. We have seen props where paint wasn't enough. So we sanded the heavy side if we thought that would resolve the imbalance.

Props have gotten better and better and better over the years. The cast props have certainly gotten tremendously better over the years. And the big wooden props and big composites really are excellent. Price often tells quality. And with props, quality often means "balanced at the factory and then checked for rejects".

But props are being made by the same people that're making our ARFs. You ever found a gluejoint in an ARF that didn't have any glue? It's a sensible thing to check props for balance. Awhile back a run of VERY popular cast props showed up with their holes off center. One size, one brand, one type. Bad out of balance. Did the factory miss checking them with their "automated balance checking machines". Did the factory QA actually check them? Does the factory even have an automatic machine? Do they ever check them at all? Who knows. But they were sold to a number of us. Some of us caught them and took 'em back to the LHS. Some didn't.

One size, one pitch, one brand, one shape can be mfg'd badly and miss whatever QA is being used by that mfg. And you might or might not buy one of 'em.

It's really bad advice to tell everyone that they don't have to check props unless you use every brand, every size, every type, every day.

Some engines today don't need breakin.

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 12:11:14 PM   
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To me the answer is obvious:
If a prop is off balance it will cause vibrations.
Vibrations are bad.
So why not check the balance?

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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 12:59:45 PM   
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I understand the damage a severe out of balance prop could do. I agree if you have a prop with the hole off center you should not use it, however, my thoughts are, if your prop is out of balance to the point that it only takes a dab of paint to correct it, the prop is okay.

What if you checked the balance and turned the slightly heavy side directly opposite of the cylinder?



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RE: Prop: Balance or dont balance? - 6/14/2008 1:51:01 PM   
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