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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 9:57:18 PM   
smokin-gun


 

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Status: offline 		wow bob -did you drink too much kool-aid ?,
seems the event staff saw things quite differently huh?

erik kindly read post #50 thank you

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 10:01:38 PM   
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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 10:12:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		That would be true Dave - but I think the point here (which has probably been lost a few pages back) is BV made it public with the very poorly worded post that is on the front page of his website.

Regardless of who said what...........BV posted a very flamatory page on his website - which got people talking.

I don't know why every post has the "he can do no wrong" club and the "he does everything wrong" club. Clearly every story has 3 sides.................I suspect the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 10:14:18 PM   
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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 10:36:47 PM   
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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 11:04:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: skyhawknut

That would be true Dave - but I think the point here (which has probably been lost a few pages back) is BV made it public with the very poorly worded post that is on the front page of his website.

Regardless of who said what...........BV posted a very flamatory page on his website - which got people talking.

I don't know why every post has the "he can do no wrong" club and the "he does everything wrong" club. Clearly every story has 3 sides.................I suspect the truth lies somewhere inbetween.

I believe your right. Had BV not posted anything publicly it would have never been made public. There was no talk about it for two weeks after the event until the question was asked on RCG regarding the note on the BVM site.


My point on posting here is simply to put some of the facts out there. There will always be advocates of BV's and enemies as with any company. The simple fact is that Bob bowed up, challenged authority and was called on his bluff. This in no way discredits his products nor his efforts in the hobby. Both of which are applaudable. It does however speak to the man himself. This instance proved that the man and event are not a match made in heaven and shouldnt be shaken nor stirred again.

I have been a jet enthusiast since I have been in this hobby and plenty of EDF'ers promoted the hobby well during the event. Bob Belluomini, Chris True, Corsair Nut and a few others put on a great show as always and are those that have earned respect. They are who many (including myself) look forward to seeing every year.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 11:08:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the thread is worthwhile.I can appreciate why BV'S reps back him and I also have great respect for what BV has done for the hobby.I have also flown his products for 15 years and still do,but I cannot rationalize his behavior as of late.He will continue to produce excellant products,but is turning a lot of potential customers away with his outbursts to fellow modelers and employees(read former employees).

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 11:15:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was asked to see this, so I am posting a photo that was up for pilots (and I believe it was in the pilot package) to show the flight patterns.

It is an overlay of Mac's field with the field layout.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/16/2008 11:41:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: westwind two
It is a shame this technology we have called the internet to some people has been their source to create havoc.
Dave Malchione
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No offense, Dave, but it was BV, himself who started this havoc with the post on his web site. The vast majority of us would never have know about this incident had he not fired the opening salvo.

Dan

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 4:57:32 AM   
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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 5:46:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: R_Belluomini

BV had it out with Jeff at the center of field and I was not present for that conversation.



WRONG.... I was there. Jeff had it out for BV. Bob never had a chance when he came to the event. Nobody wants to be barked at while they are trying to land their plane, foamy or jet, period.

There where two Electra flights done by BVM, bob's and mine. Bob was in trouble with Jeff for both, until I told Jeff that I flew the second flight. Jeff must not have been watching the flights...

I have never seen anyone be so disrespectful in my life, I am happy to say it was not Bob Violett. I was speachless after Jeff was finished with Bob.

Jeff would not let Bob or I talk. The man appeared to enjoy telling bob he did not know how to fly and a few other cutting comments. Jeff told me a committee of fellow electric pilots was formed to help BVM leave SEFF. Unfortunately nobody actually helped us load the trailer... Jeff was very insulting to Bob and I, mostly Bob. He commented that some of Bob's employees were basically not smart, and "we just don't get it".


After the BVM crew left, I stayed and hung out for Saturday. I counted many times other planes, jets, wings, ect broke the great orange cone line. One time I was speaking with Jeff and I pointed out an infringement by another EDF, all he said was "I didn't see anything".


I wish the people who despise BV could spend a day with me, and then they would see the real Bob Violett, not the person described in these internet chat rooms.



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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 6:06:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well said Dustin.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 6:36:44 AM   
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All this Bad mouthing of BV makes me want to go out and buy and Electra.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 6:47:51 AM   
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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 11:04:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		thanks Dustin,its the same people all the time,they like to gossip,any one who knows Dustin knows he would not fabricate such a story. you people need to focus on something more construtive,perhaps a soap opera with the ladies,let me get in your face when your flying,shut this thing down.

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 12:56:00 PM   
jentres


 

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You guys coming to Fentress I hope? Is BV coming? I will never go to SEFF again. Seems like cutting edge technology is not
welcome there.

Tres

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RE: bv packs it in ? - 5/17/2008 2:06:51 PM   
c/f