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QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/16/2008 9:59:09 PM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		Hello. I sent an email to the president of one of the clubs, but I haven't received a response back...and this weekend looks to be a beauty. While I will wait for a response from the president to avoid causing problems, I do want to get your feedback regarding flying near an AMA field. I posted my original email question below. Thank you for your assistance.

Hi Mark:
I hope you don't mind me emailing you to ask you a question or two. I got your name/email from the bc flyers website.

Adjoining Fields - I am a beginner in r/c airplanes, so forgive me if this is a ridiculous question. Would I be allowed to fly a "parkflyer" plane in any of the other fields in Bush Park? Specifically, I am talking about the Hobbico Skyfly and Parkzone Slo-v. They both operate on 27mHz. I attached a map with some of the areas circled.

Best Regards,
Rob

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/16/2008 10:46:45 PM   
PLANE JIM



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Status: offline 		I do not think the president of a rc club can give you permission to fly somewhere else in a county park, You might try talking to a representative from the county that controls the whole park and the activities that go on there. I am sure if you have a Park Flyer membership in AMA that you can fly at this field, as I understand but I may be wrong that Bayou City is a club that has a clubhouse and is a oversee'r but really cannot control who flies because it is a county RC field and any AMA member may use the field except during certain events.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/16/2008 11:07:05 PM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks, Jim.

I don't have a parkflyer membership in AMA. I thought there may be some type of "rule" governing flying fields, such as "no other radio controlled vehicles can be operated within a 1/2 mile radius of an AMA-sanctioned field."

Other thoughts, answers, opinions welcome.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/16/2008 11:32:35 PM   
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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 12:05:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting question. I would argue that even if AMA has a rule saying there is no flying within 1/2 mile of an AMA sanctioned field, unless they own the land, own an easement, or it somehow violates a county, city, state, or federal rule or law, it would not be enforceable. That said though, if the offender was an AMA member, the AMA could take the position that it's a condition of your membership. Of course, in doing so, they'd be handing folks another reason to not be members. Not saying that's a desired outcome, just one potential unintended consequence.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 12:11:13 AM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks again. Ok, let me ask the question another way.

Is there any reason why I shouldn't launch in a nearby field? I am assuming for a moment that most AMA folks won't be using 27mHz. Is this an erroneous assumption?

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 12:18:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RTice

Thanks, Jim.

I don't have a parkflyer membership in AMA. I thought there may be some type of "rule" governing flying fields, such as "no other radio controlled vehicles can be operated within a 1/2 mile radius of an AMA-sanctioned field."

Other thoughts, answers, opinions welcome.


Rob-

Franklin_m's post above is right on track. AMA rules simply do not apply to you as you are not a member. You are flying on 27 MHz, and that makes it very unlikely that your operation would interfere with operations of the club, so you are are good to go on a moral/courtesy basis as well as legal. Only possibilities of getting cross-threaded with other park users relate to safety considerations in the area where you want to fly, and perhaps park administration has made a delegation of control over park users engaged in model flying to the club. Always good to get permission from the site owner before flying, and that would be the Parks Dept - though they may refer you to the club.

Abel

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 12:42:53 AM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		Ok, that adds clarity to Franklin's answer for me. Again, I in no way want to infringe on anyone's airspace or frequency.

At least one of the areas that I am considering is down the road behind trees. If they were to fly that far they would most certainly lose sight of the plane just due to sheer distance if not by the "forest" between the AMA field and the open park area.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 1:41:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Many parks only allow flying models in designated areas. I would check with the parks people to say what they have to say. They control the area you want to fly in.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 3:37:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RTice

Ok, that adds clarity to Franklin's answer for me. Again, I in no way want to infringe on anyone's airspace or frequency.




You probably already know but if by some chance you don’t, 2.4 GHz will allow you to bust right through all the crap. There are some very inexpensive systems out right now…you might can get one in the morning and have a great day flying without all the BS and hoop jumping…highly recommended! The right answer for today’s Park Flyers... May there be light winds, blue skies and great flying for you! Enjoy.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 3:52:38 AM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks, littlecrankshaf. Can you mention a couple of those "inexpensive systems" 2.4ghz systems?
Rob

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 4:36:46 AM   
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Thanks, littlecrankshaf. Can you mention a couple of those "inexpensive systems" 2.4ghz systems?
Rob



http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPZT8&P=0

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=SPM6600

There are others. FWIW these two examples are even less expensive here at our local hobby shop. Look around a bit.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 6:29:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rob, I hope you have a good time but the picture posted is of Bush Park which is ran by Harris County Parks Dept./ US Army Corps- Although 2.4 ghz will let you fly your model without the worry of interference between models which I commend you for being aware of problems that could be created, the fore mention radio will not give you permission to fly in that park. I hate to see you spend the money thinking that you will be able to fly in any park-but it really is up to the governing body of the park or land.

Some people call the rules "crap" , but they are the rules which most people try to adhere. HAPPY LANDINGS

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 1:10:46 PM   
RTice


 

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Status: offline 		I got ya. The parks dept keeps bankers hours, so I won't be able to get in touch with anyone until monday. I will most likely fly in an undeveloped subdivision nearby. Unfortunately, they have like a billion marker posts sticking out of the ground which makes landing quite treacherous.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 2:35:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I may ask, why not just join the club and the AMA and you can fly anytime you want at their field?

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 2:52:36 PM   
2fast


 

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Status: offline 		RTice: I wish to thank you for being considerate of the other modelers in the area. Most people just fire up their radio and don't care a wit about others in the area. I agree that your radio is unlikely to cause problems with other modelers. Be advised however that you will be subject to interference from other RC Cars, boats and planes as well as CB radios as they are all on 27 mhz. Furthermore there are only a few frequencies available on 27 mhz so the odds of interference is often very high, depends on how remote your location is.

As to permission required, unless there is a sign prohibiting flying at the park, I say go for it. If they don't want you there they will tell you soon enough. Easier to forgiveness than it is to get permission!

mscic-RCU- Many park flyers and beginners don't want to pay $58.00 for an AMA membership and another $50 to $100 to a local club just to fly their $75.00 park flyer.

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RE: QUESTION - Flying near an AMA field? - 5/17/2008 3:04:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		RTice, You are in TX and Harris county. You are walking on gunpowder, because flying anything at other than Scobee Bayou City Flyers has enough difficult times with keeping that facility. They certainly worked enough to get it. You will not make many new friends if you mess up their keeping the facility.

Plane Jim gave you, nicely, some good advice. Heed it.

Don't fly in a county park without proper permission.

Current Scobee officers are at http://www.ama-dist-8.org/index.php.

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