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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 12:37 AM

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And yet not one peep about the mythical JR 12X which has yet to be delivered. And that was announced in April 2007. Why no angst over that??

This is SOP for most all of the major companies, yet for some reason people are taking Futaba to task for the 10C, which was only announced in February, of THIS year.

To announce a pending product is one thing but to offer a product for sale and to
keep changing the due date every two weeks is another and im not just talking
about the 10C. I will admit I dont know whats going on with the JR 12X because
I have not been on the Horizon site keeping track of the radio.

Although this is as I said SOP to some degree I think its getting out of hand no
matter who is doing it.

Just my .02

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 1:57 AM

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Tower makes no mention of the radio being in stock now. If you place your order, you know full well that the radio is not yet available. This is what one would refer to as a "pre-order" since none of you seem to be familiar with the concept. As Bax stated, no money has changed hands yet anyway so try not to get your panties in a bunch over the deal.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 2:03 AM

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The Futaba 10C FASST transmitter is due to arrive in the next few weeks or so. The 10C heli transmitter on 72 MHz with the R1410DP PCM receiver doesn't have a projected delivery date at this time. The so-called 'contact' may not be quite as familiar with what's going on as others within the organization.

Ok, for the first 10C will be 2.4 and some months later Futaba will sell 10C with 72 MHz
we are going to spend the money twice for which we want 72 MHz, those of Futaba are not idiot and its priority is the money and they never send a product in the promised date, always in delay.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 2:06 AM

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Tower makes no mention of the radio being in stock now. If you place your order, you know full well that the radio is not yet available. This is what one would refer to as a "pre-order" since none of you seem to be familiar with the concept. As Bax stated, no money has changed hands yet anyway so try not to get your panties in a bunch over the deal.

what universe do you live in?
you certainly cannot follow a topic to save your rudder...............but first things first. when you place a pre-order with Tower, they do not actually charge your card, so does that mean it's OK to go spend that money?....of course not, because if you do, and the item comes in, you don't get it, and you lose the discounts that may have been used in the original transaction. so, you leave the money where it belongs which in essence you may as well have been charged.
second, this thread is about how Futaba keeps making Tower push their date back for this radio.

and third, i have now purchased the 12FG 2.4, so i could careless when the 10C gets here, but my info posted was to let those who are hanging out to get the 10C and so they no where they stand.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 2:19 AM

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I live in the universe called "reality".

My post was in response to ira_d's. Try to keep up please. Yes, it is the purchaser's choice alone to pre-order an item. They are of course free to change their mind before the product becomes available. Enjoy your 12, it was on my short list before a deal on my new radio fell into my lap.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 2:31 AM

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Ryan,
i see says the blind man...........it looked like you were replying to the thread in general. my bad

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 4:38 AM

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Tower makes no mention of the radio being in stock now. If you place your order, you know full well that the radio is not yet available. This is what one would refer to as a "pre-order" since none of you seem to be familiar with the concept. As Bax stated, no money has changed hands yet anyway so try not to get your panties in a bunch over the deal.

Im very much aware of the stock status at tower thank you and I also know
what a pre order is. But I think its you that has missed the point of this thread.

The point of this thread although it has been clearly pointed out several times
already is about compaines posting due dates for products that they clearly
know are likely wrong.

Also at this time I dont have 10C on order although I may get one at a later date
but as of right now im not in a bind for a radio.

Let me put it this way if Tower says the radio are due late april and the end of april
arrived and they still dont have confirmation from Futaba that the radios are on the
boat at that time then why move the due date to early may?

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 6:00 AM

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Surely they are solving to the problems of 6014 Rx and its high temperatures

it is necessary to have patience, better late than never

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 6:14 AM

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It seems there are alway a few who have to make up something to **** about. If you have $600 now and you don't think you will in 4 - 6 weeks then for Gods sake spend your money more wisely and don't waste what little you have on toy airplanes. If you feel the product is not worth waiting for then don't, JR has the 9303 out and it's susposed to be equivalent of the 10C and many people swear by it. I for one am just waiting until my 10C to get here and I'm sure I'll be happy. Am I disappointed it's taking longer, heck yes but so what, it will get here.

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RE: 10C date moves back, suprised? - 5/24/2008 3:43 PM

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It is just not Futaba that does this. All the radio makers seem to announce product LONG before it is available.

And it's not just radio makers. Does the name Microsoft come to mind?

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RE: 10C date moves back, suprised? - 5/24/2008 4:05 PM

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I started in RC about 6 years ago and had accumulated mostly Futaba equipment - servos, receivers, transmitters. Futaba was good solid equipment and had broad industry support. I had been contemplating going with one of the Berg or RCD 72MHz receivers for future options and had moved up to the 9C about 16 months ago with the Futaba synthesized TX module and RX.

Then I wanted to start getting into 2.4GHz equipment. Got my son his own Spektrum DX7 system for his Mini UltraStick which he absolutely loves. For my 2.4GHz system, the choice was either a new Futaba 6EX, 7C or a Futaba or Spektrum module for the 9C. I fly an UltraStick with quad flaps so really wanted all the doodads of a 9 channel system.

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

Spektrum's recent Giveaway event pretty much sealed the deal. I went with the JR X9303 2.4GHz system with an extra Spektrum R9000 and R6200 receivers. Now I'm waiting for $250 of FREE Spektrum receivers to get here. That was an utterly brilliant marketing move by Horizon.

I'm also starting to replace some of my Futaba S3004 standard and S3110 micro servos with Hitec HS-475HBs and HS-65HBs.

Brand loyalty? I guess not me...

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RE: 10C date moves back, suprised? - 5/24/2008 4:11 PM

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I would think the decision to wait or to pick a different brand should be made based on product's feature and technology.

Another point is that a rushed product is not necessarily a good product, especially a new radio.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 4:27 PM

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But I think its you that has missed the point of this thread.

I thought the point of this thread was that some people will never be satisfied, no matter what a company does?

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 8:22 PM

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But I think its you that has missed the point of this thread.

I thought the point of this thread was that some people will never be satisfied, no matter what a company does?

not really, it was more intended to talk about how the product delivery date keeps getting moved back.
i guess i'm just used to the DSLR camera world i also live in..........when Canon gives a release date, they have hit every date on the mark with the past 8 DSLR's for the past 7 years.
with Futaba, it's been one date, then moved back a month, then moved back again, then moved back again....etc, etc.
i know you mentioned JR doing the same thing, but i am brand loyal and expect more from Futaba based on the years that Futaba has been around.

i really felt that the 10C would be the perfect radio for me with all the programming features and all, but now that i have ordered the 12FG and been reading the manual and asking questions from other owners, i feel Futaba did a good thing for me by putting the 10C delivery date off again, which we all know is going to get moved again. of course the 12FG is twice the cash, but i can live with it, especially since it has the better sticks and servo grouping.
when Bax said the units will be here in a "few" weeks, that hardly qualifies for "early June"...........Early July is more to the truth.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 9:32 PM

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But I think its you that has missed the point of this thread.

I thought the point of this thread was that some people will never be satisfied, no matter what a company does?

Ha Ha I know you are joking we all need a good laugh sometime.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/24/2008 9:53 PM

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Ira,

isn't it sad that some people just can't read, let alone comprehend what a person is saying?
the topic was intended to let those who are actually buying this radio know where they stand........but as usual, you get a few people that just have to give everyone a hard time..........

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/25/2008 1:34 AM

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Ira,

isn't it sad that some people just can't read, let alone comprehend what a person is saying?
the topic was intended to let those who are actually buying this radio know where they stand........but as usual, you get a few people that just have to give everyone a hard time..........

You are 110% right. And also when all the different compaines see that we have
begain to notice that the due dates they give us are completely bogus maybe just
maybe they will change their practice.

I had a TM 8 module on order from Tower since June of 07 I finaily cancled the
order in Jan of 08, I think the first TM 8 sets hit the market in late Feb or early
march of 08 but they had been for sale on the Tower web site since Apr or May
of 07.

As I said before im not in a bind for a radio and I do plan at this time to stick with
Futaba products but I think they can do better with the way they post their due
dates and they need to stop moving the dates back every two weeks when they
know the products has not been shipped from the factory yet or may not even
be in production.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/25/2008 10:28 AM

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The manual of 10C is not ready, not yet finish.
those of futaba are making the last adjustments of the manual, those of futaba are not FASST but within the two first weeks of June they will ship Transmitters to the USA distributor.
Maybe for end of June 10C will be available on the shops..

patience guys, Futaba never fulfill with the dates but is better late than never

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/25/2008 4:15 PM

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i posted this as i feel those waiting for a 10C should be informed.....

Yes, but what about those waiting for the 10C Super....

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/25/2008 11:12 PM

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The manual of 10C is not ready, not yet finish.
those of futaba are making the last adjustments of the manual, those of futaba are not FASST but within the two first weeks of June they will ship Transmitters to the USA distributor.
Maybe for end of June 10C will be available on the shops..

patience guys, Futaba never fulfill with the dates but is better late than never

I have no reason to doubt what you say but how do you know this do you work for
Futaba? Anyway if you are right that would be great, But this brings up another point
if you in Spain has this info why doesnt Futaba USA have the same info and why
would they set a due date for the radios that is before the manuals are ready since
they cant ship the radios without them.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/26/2008 8:47 PM

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You can believe my info of course.
All Futaba dealers know the same info but Bax and Krysta of Futaba USA did not say anything because futaba does not leave them, people are nervous and will be more to knowing this info about manual.
At the day english manual is not ready, maybe for end of month.

you have reason when you say:
why would they set a due date for the radios that is before the manuals are ready since
they cant ship the radios without them.

answer: marketing strategy
they want to pillage many clients and to put this transmitter in the head of people. Futaba says that it is going to coming soon so that its customers do not buy another Tx.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/26/2008 8:56 PM

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You can believe my info of course.
All Futaba dealers know the same info but Bax and Krysta of Futaba USA did not say anything because futaba does not leave them, people are nervous and will be more to knowing this info about manual.
At the day english manual is not ready, maybe for end of month.

you have reason when you say:
why would they set a due date for the radios that is before the manuals are ready since
they cant ship the radios without them.

answer: marketing strategy
they want to pillage many clients and to put this transmitter in the head of people. Futaba says that it is going to coming soon so that its customers do not buy another Tx.

Ok sounds good to me You have come up with the exact same theory that I did a few post back and to some extent I can understand the method in their madness but I think
they are overdoing it and that all this subject is about.

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/28/2008 6:13 AM

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Hi Everyone - Well I have been drooling like everyone else waiting for the 10C but I just cant wait anymore. So I ordered A 9C with the TM-8 Module & rx today and had it shipped overnight. I have been using a 7C with no problems at all. I will just wait till next season and purchase the 10C or the 12FG. This is such a great hobby - lot's of anticapation LOL - Steve

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/28/2008 2:48 PM

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Hi Everyone - Well I have been drooling like everyone else waiting for the 10C but I just cant wait anymore. So I ordered A 9C with the TM-8 Module & rx today and had it shipped overnight. I have been using a 7C with no problems at all. I will just wait till next season and purchase the 10C or the 12FG. This is such a great hobby - lot's of anticapation LOL - Steve

I hope you got it cheap as the 9C series has been discontinued by Futaba.....

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7544295/tm.htm

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RE: 10C date moves back, update******* - 5/28/2008 4:14 PM

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I hope you got it cheap as the 9C series has been discontinued by Futaba.....

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_7544295/tm.htm
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Lessee_____ being from an older generation we were taught that "patience" was a virtue.

I see that it still is.

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