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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/27/2012 1:05 AM   
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Hey everybody, The old 500 is whole again. It took me 5 hours to rebuild it. Since a new one is $500 plus I decided to rebuild. $75 worth of parts. I am still waiting on a swash follower arm to come in and i need to rebuild my servos. I just received my servo gears today. I can generaly replace the servo gears with out completely removing the servo from the frame. Mack I tell ya, I need to stop some of the things I do with a heli because I simply can not see it for more than one or two cycles of piros and so forth. It was flying good though and trhe flybarless unit makes it really sweet boasting my need to do more. My buddy says "You know your blind and you know you need to act your age and let them kids scatter heli parts"!

Tomorrow looks to be a grand flying day and i am loaded up ready to go

Good job Skunk and keep it up

Matty sorry for your long commutes to work. Take time for yourself.

Mack, ride-up cowboy!!

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/28/2012 10:53 PM   
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OK, I know y'all have been sitting on the edge of your workbenches, eagerly waiting for the:

Rat Club Chronicles

Last Sunday out at the Rat Club things got pretty busy. Brad had his stick out and managed to fly it without breaking a prop. Past readers will reconize that this is a significant improvement. Todd had a beautiful biplane with him, but my guess is that it is just a "trailer queen", since all he had was excuses as to why he couldn't fly it. Our fearless President, Stuart had what could only be characterized as an electric lawn dart. Flew the feathers off that thing. Went straight up so far and so fast I couldn't see it. Then he'd come screaming straight down, pulling out mere yards from the ground. I suppose this is what fixed wing pilots do to get a rush!

Meanwhile the heli pilots were doing fine until the "troubles" began. Actually they began just before I arrived. Apparently Ronnie was practicing his autorotations with his Hirobo SDX and decided to land approximately 6 feet above the ground. This is pretty much not the best idea. He ended up with a bent tail boom and (yup you guessed it) broken side frame. When I arrived he had gotten out his spare SDX and was sitting quietly, watching the others fly.

And fly they did. Wild Man Bill showed up and in minutes was in the air flying his T-Rex 600 electric. Aggressively. Again, I missed the "incident" that resulted a direct high-speed vertical landing. We think the battery is okay. Maybe. Jury is out on most of the rest of the components. Bill mumbled something about rolling or wrong way. Ah yes we've all been there.

Not wanting to be left out, Greg promptly took his SDX out and soon entertained us by systematically thrashing his heli up and down on the ground. He picked it up about four feet then pounded it in to the ground. Then repeated the move. We at first thought it might be a new maneuver he was developing. After beating up his favorite SDX (he's got it flying with a Skookum flybarless system), he then proceeded to practice his autorotations. Greg likes to wow the crowds by doing piroettes during his autos. Well this time he "ran out of rudder", and managed to slap it into mother earth.

Interestingly, the heli appeared to be unscathed. Greg gave it a cursory inspection and was about to start it back up and I said, "Are you sure?"

He reached around a discovered his muffler was a bit loose. No sooner had I pointed out the importance of post-flight and pre-flight inspection, I realized I hadn't checked my muffler for a while. And it was loose. I then proceeded to check Ron T.'s (loose), Pat's (loose) and Ronnie's (loose). Soon I was running around tightening everyone's mufflers for them.

Once everyone's mufflers were properly affixed, I knew I could rest for a bit.

Somewhere in there, I managed to fly twice. The first time I flew, the gnats attacked me (and the skeeters too in stealth mode). Those critters were crawling along the brim of my hat and peeking around the edge. Then after I was well into forward flight they decided to take up residence behind the lenses of my sunglasses! I promptly landed well almost crash landed trying to get to where I could chase them away. And I did and they didn't. I parked my SDX and considered another strategy. I put Deep Woods Off on my face and arms in addition to my legs. I walked out to the flight line as a test. No bugs. Good. Went out to fly again and once again was attacked by gnats, the same way. I gave up and sat back to watch others try to fly.

Time for Greg to go off to the edge of the flight line and check out his wounded SDX. He picked it up into a hover, lifted a bit more, and the machine went unstable (ailerons). Greg slammed it back down and shut it down. Turns out he had stripped the aileron servo gear. And now some more damage.

By this time the sun was going down and it was time for me to head home. And the winds started screaming ever since, so I don't know if anyone else out there got out alive. I hope so.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/29/2012 4:15 AM   
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Hey all, I finally had time to rebuild my 500 servos. Funny the Align 510 servos only break the 2nd and third gear and not the main output as most servo will do. I got my last head piece in and it is on the FBL head. After a look through my shop for some new links (I change them all after crashes) I found some JR swash followers and just perfect, I could have saved $21. I also found several packs of JR links. If you have not heard the JR links are in my opinion the best links made. You size them and you can resize them by mashing them with a pair of duck bill pliers. I found 5 packes of those. I forgot i bought them at a fly-in. Wow, if I clean the messy shop up I may find a heli I did not remember I had. Hum, did I get a 700 that I forgot about?

I had a perfect day of flying yesterday, now don't shoot the messenger, Dead calm winds and 75f. Sunny. I flew 12 batteries out.

Mack I don't know what's going on but the ground just jumps up and grabs helicopters. 2 crashes at my field yesterday. They were all pilot error, you know hit the wrong control after a bail out.

Matty???? Snow???? You need to find a gym that will let you fly in.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/30/2012 3:56 AM   
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Full day of flying today! The 500 is looking good and my piro flips are getting better and more confident every time I try them. I want to tweak my 500 settings a bit though, I'm finding it a little twitchier than I'd like it and I want to increase the headspeed slightly. I need to start messing with expo and rates to get something that I really like the feel of, I'm beginning to feel that I don't really need 100% rates for 3D maneuvers but we'll see. I was going to practice backward circuits after doing them a ton on the mcpx and sim, but it was quite windy and I just didn't feel comfortable with it.

I got to fly a few different helis at the field today, the other guys seem to think I fly well enough to trust me with their machines First one was a Hirobo Sceadu Shuttle (.50 I think?) that our pres recently picked up on craigslist and got flying. Felt pretty tame, very settled for flying big but didn't seem to have the power for tight 3D maneuvers. Unfortunately that one ended up crashing hard a few minutes after I handed the TX back over. I suggested he come backwards down the flightline to check his tail after a gyro adjustment, coming out of it the wind got it and pushed it back overhead and it got away from him a little. He leveled out and gave it collective but the blades bogged and couldn't stop the descent. The thing hit hard about 3 feet in front of us and bounced about 2 feet straight up after impact. It was the first real heli crash I've seen in person and it was pretty intense! The damage actually was surprisingly mild as we looked over it. Since it came down on the skids the blades were fine, canopy wasn't so much as scratched, none of the frame was damaged beyond two of the canopy mounting pins and none of the servos were stripped. Main damage seemed to be the boom and skids, hopefully he can get it patched pretty quickly/inexpensively and doesn't end up finding any further damage.

Later on I managed to scare the crap out of myself trying to do a piro flip directly out of a funnel. The heli drifted over toward the sun and silhouetted itself exiting the maneuver at a weird angle. Either luck or sim reflexes leveled it off and I doubt anyone else could tell much of anything had gone wrong, but it scared me so bad that my heart about shot out of my mouth. I was shaking a bit and brought it back over to just do some slow piros for the rest of my battery. Just after that my other friend offered me a flight on his Compass 7HV!! I told him I was a little shaken up but he didn't seem concerned about it, he handed over the TX and I lifted off and was just astounded by how dialed in that thing was. 700 is no joke! I started with some slow piros to get a feel for it and the thing was just so well behaved that it managed to calm me down on its own. I did some fast circuits and hard turns and ended up doing every maneuver I know on that thing. Tried some tic tocs with it and they were worlds easier than on my 500, just looked so controlled and smooth. Locked funnels much easier than my 500 as well, I hadn't expected the difference to be quite so drastic. After that he let me fly his 550 as well, which was much more similar to what I'm used to with the 500. I don't have any real regrets about going for the 500 instead of the 550 after getting to fly one.

Toward the end of the day I flew a few batteries on my Typhoon 2 as the wind calmed down. I'm remembering how to fly it somewhat, working with it rather than against it. The thing does not like to fly precision or hover at all really, but it's not bad at tumbling and spinning. Stalls are unpredictable but there are certain ways you can nudge it here and there to make it do some neat stuff. It's a fun plane but I still would like to have a totally dialed in and well behaved 3D machine.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/30/2012 5:24 PM   
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Skunk, For me, the Evo is a sweet helicopter and is not made for 3D but is rather a FAI type machine better for big air. However the SDX is a 3d machine but both are tame compared to what you have been flying. I own an EVO and like it very much. My Vibe will fly rings around it but it is what it is. Both have Hyper .50s in them. The newer 55and a good pipe would most likely wake his EVO up. My Evo is the old HPM version in that it is not CCPM but is a screamer. The Trex helis are a different animal and are purpose fit for 3D. I am surprised that the 500 does not feel the way you would like it. To compare to the Compass you would need to have the same electronics and power, blades and so forth or go back to you set up and tweak it out. Was his flybarless? with the same Unit?. I found the blades make a big difference. In my case I do not use flybarless blades. I like the pop of the 3d blades instead but as I tell folks, it is all in how you want it to feel and not me. Compass and Gaui helis are probably some of the best but the Trex is the market flooded machine so more in the field. Not everything is Trex and that is for sure.

No flying for me today. I want to complete my 500 with reseting the head/Beastx up and do a good go-over. I plan to fly everyday this week weather permitting.

Take care,

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/30/2012 7:10 PM   
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong here I wasn't ragging on the Evo. It flew very nice for larger maneuvers and held momentum considerably better than my 500. His is the older non-CCPM as well, it's cool seeing how the older mechanisms work.

It's not that I'm unhappy with my 500 per se, but rather that I feel like it's more responsive than I need it to be for my maneuvers and it keeps my hands a bit tenser than I'd like flying. I find myself having to make very tiny stick inputs while flying and I have a harder time working up a rhythm or flow than I do when I fly the other guys machines, I'd just like to be able to make slightly larger stick movements without over controlling I guess. I'm sure I'll be able to sort it out, I'm bad about tuning my stuff and instead tend to just fly it how it is and adjust. I've hardly made any adjustments to my setup at all since I first flew it haha.

I can't remember if my 500 has the FBL blades or not...I want to say that it doesn't. I was thinking about getting some Edge blades at some point, do you think I would be able to feel the difference with the sort of flying I've been doing? Also is it safe to get longer than stock blades without stretching the heli? Like, is there a very slightly longer blade I could use without fear of boom strikes or bogging?

The Compass really really impressed me, it was on BeastX...I didn't think I'd ever need a 700 but I just couldn't believe how amazingly it flew. I'd been looking at the Logo 500 as my next machine...do you think I should be looking at the 600 instead or will the 500 fly big enough to feel similarly? As I understand it the Logo 500 is actually a 600 size...right?

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/30/2012 9:19 PM   
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Oh yeah you can use slightly larger blades no problem. If the heli is sensitive tame it down. Beast or 3gx you can use your transmitter Dual rate/ and expo. I found that a smaller control input is just tooo touchy for me so I tend to soften it up in the middle. For 3d stuff it looks a lot nicer if you slow the controls down. Piro flips are a lot easier to keep time and look super. Example of my cyclic is that I have 85% cyclic in dual rate and 25% expo, My tail is at 70% with 25expo. I have told my Beastx and 3gx that I am conrolling the rates. The beast in a Sport mode does good for me but the 3gx V2 needs to use the transmitter for sure... very touchy. I use the Align 3D pro blades on everything. Just remember that longer blades take more power. I would use 425 on the 500 and revisit your setup. You can make youe heli fell like the LOGO. By the way if you have not priced a logo, the cost will water your eyes,,, very costly!!! If I remember correctly the 500 and 600 are the same airframe but the 600 is streched like the Trex550 Vs Trex 600.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 4/30/2012 9:26 PM   
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Sounds like we're on the same page here, I totally agree that smoothness looks much more interesting on 3D maneuvers than the super aggressive smack flying. Kyle Dahl is my favorite pilot by far so that should give you an idea of the type of style I'd like to develop in time

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll start looking into the settings and tweaking stuff more.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/2/2012 10:59 AM   
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I call it "Conspiracy Weather" and demand a recount!!!!!!!!

first day off in 8 days, during which time the weather has ranged from slightly drizzly to downright hot and i get woken up at 0600 hrs by a jolly great thunderstorm!!! that went away as quickly as it arrived to leave a dreary overcast sky but with no wind, so i thought i'd try my luck and chance it! sit down at the confuser with my cup o'char to do some quick catching up and look out the window to see it's raining AGAIN!!!!!!!!

i think i'm either going to move to somewhere like Texas or Australia or just take up tiddly-winks as my new hobby!!

i got moved to second shift last week so we weren't starting until 0900hrs and i normally get to work between 3/4 - 1/2 hour early so i can chill before getting thrown into the melée. i have the Apache sitting on my back seat of the car so that i don't miss an opportunity and had the chance to spool it up before we left! had the blade bolts spot on for tension as he spooled up quite nicely and just as i got near to running speed he stopped spinning on me! went over to investigate thinking maybe the power had just drained from the LiPo's, did a quick control movement check again and everything seemed to be in order, went to spool up again and there was the nasty whizzing sound coming from the motor, indicating the pinion had come loose! this annoyed me immensely as i have been anal in making sure everything was put back together correctly to avoid the need to pull the mechanics out of the shell again! i know i had applied threadlock to the grub screw but i must have just caught the edge of the flat of the motor shaft, which allowed it to slip!

that is sorted now (luckily could do it without removing too much to get to the pinion) but it was just as well, as i did a cursory glance over everything else (as you should do) to find the tail rotor hub did not have any threadlock holding the grub screw in and it slid straight off the shaft!!! that one could have been extremely costly!!

Jimbo, you still da man!

Skunk, you're up there!

Mack, always a pleasure to read!!

Andy, you supposed to be giving us an inside line to what's new and going on!!??!!!

Everyone else -HELLLLLOOOOOO! (in the fashion of Tigger down a rotten tree trunk)

p,l,c+mh

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/2/2012 1:37 PM   
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Matty Ha Ha you have been hanging with our heros for a long time O600hrs, 0930hrs. 10:00 zulu Took me years to go back to 6 oclock. Hey I have one of the new Mini TiTans FBL kits sitting on my bunch ready for a reveiw build. On first look at it it is really sharp. I will report more when I open the packages and start the build. This is a bucket-O- bolts kit.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/3/2012 3:42 AM   
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Yes!! Yet another:

Rat Club Chronicles!!

Yesterday, Greg, Ronnie, and I made it out to the Rat Club. It was a bit windy 7mph gusting to 12+mph, but we were ready. We had been shut in from flying for more than a week so we were ready. 86F, cloudy. I used my yellow glasses for contrast but it didn't really help too much. As usual, Ronnie was fussing about his SDX trim or something, so Greg went out and helped him get things just right. Seems his pitch was off and was loading down the engine. I thought he was running a bit too rich, but he leaned it out a bit and that didn't don anything. Greg was right and adjusted things just a bit more and everything was better!

Greg had just completed fixing his SDX from the last "mishap", and impressed both Ronnie and I with the fact that right off the bench, his heli was in perfect trim. Kudos to the Skookum flybarless system he has on that bird. Usually one spends a couple test flights adjusting the swashplate etc. getting things just right.

With the wind I was a bit shy about trying anything risky so stuck to improving my lazy eights and stall turns. I finally knocked out a couple loops that looked a bit warped, but none of them involved dirt so I was good!

Ronnie went back out and continued to work on his sport flying. His loops are looking better and better and he's been working hard on autos. All of the sudden out of nowhere, his SDX started flailing around in midair. In a spinning motion not different that what one sees during a piroflip, his SDX headed straight for the ground, landing on its windsheild. This of course was followed by the dancing chicken routine until he got his foot on it and tore out the fuel tank.

The short answer is that we figure there was a catastrophic failure of the electronics, or a cable disconnect somewhere. From Ronnie's perspective, the heli stopped responding to his controls. After closer examination, it turns out the the point of impact involved primarily the Rx, Governor, and Gyro. Also involved one or more servo cases, and likely some gears. Side frames were damaged and the servo tray shattered. Interestingly, the tail boom and associated components were untouched. Minor damage to the head too. Don't you hate it when there's a failure that you had nothing to do with? Pilot error? Failure to pre-flight? Who knows.

On a lighter note, Greg and I were back out at the Rat Club today and had a highly successful day. Well at least I did. Winds were calm to 5mph, temperature was up to 88F. Partly cloudy with lots of blue sky!!!! I decided that today would be "my day" and I worked hard at improving my sport technique. Warmed up with lazy eights and stall turns, then started in on my loops. Real ugly to begin with, but with Gregs patient coaching I eventually remembered how to do it without wind in my frace! Did one excellent roll, and also practiced my nose in hovering! All in all a great day for me.

Greg on the other hand managed to stip off 12 teeth on one of his gears after running his flybarless SDX through its paces in some pretty heavy duty routines, including his piroflips. Sooo he parked that one since he didn't have any spares in stock at the field (odd, since he's an Hirobo dealer). Got out his stock SDX and started it up without mishap. Took it out and started putting it through its paces. I noticed that it was running leaner and leaner and grew concerned. Eventually, he brought it in and inspected it. And shut it down. I ran out with my IR thermometer and took a head temperature reading of 249 deg F. Turns out his muffler tubing broke off. Soo he brought that one in and started replacing tubing. We both thought it might be worthwhile to replace the tubing inside the tank. Since it was the end of the day, he decided to take both helis back to his bench and work them over for our next fly-day!

We're back in the game in Houston!

Matty, come on down to Houston. I'm sure you can find a job around here somewhere. You will like the folks at the North West Radio Control Club and I'm sure they'll like you!

Mack

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/3/2012 1:25 PM   
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Hey y'all!

I've been working on plank stuff lately and getting some home stuff squared away.

Check out the next Model Aviation for my coverage of the Orlando Helicopter Blowout though.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/5/2012 7:40 PM   
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Hello, strangers. Sorry I haven't been on in months. I just rebuilt my Hawk Sport after neglecting my ball links for so long, one fianlly gave up the ghost on a gusty day. Thr Hold and and a nice full pine tree and she rolled down the pine bows and landed gently into a bed of pine needles. Pine trees are kind to these things. Mains, spindle, boom and a flybar was all the damage. She is back in the air an smooth as silk once again. Picked up a Predator Gasser and what can I say. What a beast! I love flying this thing. It came with all JR servos and gyro and a nice Fromeco regulator. Will be moving to NC next month. It should be my last miltary move. Finally buying our dream home and planting some roots. Take care everyone and keep em flying.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/6/2012 1:11 AM   
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Hey Chris, good to hear from you. Where in NC are you moving?.

As I promised,, I assembled a new TT MiniTitan 450 FBL. The kit is a bucket-o bolts kit. It is a very fast bulding kit and it is top shelf all the way. The quality is second to none. It canopy is not a typical Titan cover and reminds me of a tiny Miniture Aircraft Strata. The manual is good except for a few items that are simply wrong and a beginner would not know any better. It shows to use thread locker on plastic to sheet metal screws and shows the tail blades installed backwards. The bolt that holds the boom supports to the boom is too short by about 3mm. I dug a longer one out of my screw bin. The inside bearings on the tail grips were impossible to insert and required me to sand the bore with some fine wet sandpaper. This was also a problem with the main blade grips . The edge of the bores would not let the bearings to go in.
Other than that it was a nice easy to build kit. The manual pages were well marked and easy to read and also referenced the parts bag number for that step. A couple of times I found a certain screw or bolt in the next steps parts bag. With the grip bore polishing the build took me 4 hours to complete. I have not installed the servos yet or a Spectrum 7200bx Fbl so no test flight yet. I think that Align is going to have a run for their money with the new Thunder Tiger offerings.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/6/2012 4:54 PM   
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WB Chris. I just realized you are right next to Ft. Dix, where I entered the Army many moons ago. Spent many "happy" days there! Like JD asked, where in NC? Hope you'll be near JD and his club!

WB Cuda. I was wondering where you wandered off to. Will be looking for your article next month.

JD, how many helicopters does one "need" to have? I realize that is a philosophical question.

QUESTION for all - What kind of main blades are you using on your 600/.50 birds? We were buying Protek CF blades from AMAIN, but they've discontinued them due to declining quality. They were $50, which is a good deal especially for the begginers who tend to consume them at a more rapid pace. Because we tend to pool resources and place big orders, we would enjoy free shipping. Also, buying this way means we collectively have backup blades to keep us flying.

It now looks like the cheapest CF blades we can find are the Align 600D blades (white ones) and they seem to look good. Available for ~$72.

I have been flying Curtis Youngblood YB-600 Radix. $89.99 MSRP on my Hirobo SDX, and I like them a lot.

Anyway, we are all curious as to what you folks might advise. We're not looking for cheap junk, just economical CF. Anyone who is pursuing 3D usually goes very high quality, but that's not what we're seeking here.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/6/2012 6:05 PM   
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Hey Chris! welcome back buddy! if you are going to be close to Jimbo and we ever get a chance to get back over there to visit, we'll have even more friends to drop in on!!

Mack - i got two pairs of the Align CF blades for the 500 Apache (before i could get hold of the Spin scale blades) and they are really nice! well balanced in the pairs but i found the two pairs were quite different in weight as i was using the four blade Align head!

Jimbo or Andy - either one of you got your hands on the E-Flite Blade 500 yet??? very curious to see how it compares and it might be another addition to my E-Flite hangar!!!

i did manage to get to the flying club on Wednesday and had the Apache hovering (only four feet off the ground but he was hovering)! have needed to dial the throttle line (set as straight line for continuous head speed) down to 55% to keep the blades at a reasonable rpm (c. 1480rpm) and had to dial up the expo. to 45% as he's very twitchy! did notice the nose had a slow turn to the right and instead of doing the correct thing and making sure the mechanics were set right, i listened to the German chap who was overseeing my flying and boosted the gain, in hind sight probably a lot too much, and went out for the last hover where it picked up and shot round to the left and i had to put him down quickly, with a bump!!!! luckily the only injury was the ply supports inside the shell that the struts fix to cracked and the gun got caught in the grass which pulled the fiberglass around the mount!

one day, hopefully, i might even get to fly it properly!?!!!

did get about 5 seconds (the old guy was operating my phone!!!) of video which i have attached, so enjoy! [then again i won't as my connection is appalling and the forum doesn't exactly speed along!!]

p,l,c+mh

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/6/2012 7:00 PM   
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I'm running Edge blades on my 600's now. Love em

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/6/2012 9:51 PM   
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Yea! I finally mastered my stall turn yesterday! Is the next maneuver to do a loop or multiple rotations during the stall turn? Hope everyone is doing well, -Sean

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/7/2012 1:02 AM   
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Mack I run the Align Pro3d 600's and 500 on most everything.. My Vibe has Edge Love them. It is what we carry in the store so I like to fly what I sell.

Helicopters?....Thr Mini Titan is the stores demo and not mine. I recently sold my Trex450 pro. I got talked out of. I personally have 6 helis now.

Sean do your rolls and loops.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/15/2012 4:44 PM   
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Got a few batteries in after work yesterday and flew great! My first battery I was in the zone and starting to actually fly with a little momentum. Did backwards circuits, piro flips, funnels both ways, and started doing some of that poppybouncy up and down the flightline stuff the pros are always doing in their routines. I love that kind of flying and am slowly working my way toward more crisp and precise flightline maneuvers down on the deck, I love hesitating at vertical and just letting it hang there before putting it on its back, looks so neat. My aileron tictocs are very weak, I need to work on them because they'll fit into these sequences seamlessly.

Second battery was pretty much a wash, was playing with my headspeed and got a noise I didn't like so I kept setting it down to readjust. Totally threw off my groove and I ended up just practicing some tictocs having wasted most of the battery hovering.

After that I hit everything with triflow and my friend let me fly one of his batteries for one more go before the sun went down. This battery was great! I got into my groove and kept it low even more than usual without scaring myself. I did my lowest 360 piro flip yet at 10' or slightly lower, and I did my first hurricane ever! I've never had luck with hurricanes in my sim but the 500 just locked in happily and was rock solid at full knife edge! It was such a rush, I just kept pushing it faster and faster, it looks and sounds so cool when it comes around the front. I could have probably turned it into a high speed funnel but it's probably for the best that I didn't try to, I know a mistake would have cost me at that speed and altitude.

I really need to push myself to learn full proper piro flips, the 360 flips aren't perfect or completely stationary or anything, but I can do them without a second though and maintain altitude for the most part. My exits tend to drift on me but I'm sure that's something that will improve with time and repetition, it's always in the same direction so it's something I can correct for. Going for the 720 piro flip still just throws me off, it's such a drastic stir on the cyclic. I've done the odd one on the sim but I have a ways to go on them, hopefully one day I'll be able to do them indefinitely like the pros.

I actually went out to our field Saturday as well, but not a single soul was there. There was a 40% chance of rain and it looked nasty while I was driving out, but it had been 2 weeks since I'd flown so I was going one way or another. As soon as I got there the clouds all blew over and it was beautiful but still nobody showed. I flew a couple batteries and actually had my first "crash" with the 500. I got a little bolder with my autorotation and hit the hold before fully stabilizing in a hover. I messed around a little too much before planting it on the ground and didn't have any rotor authority once it touched down. Just tipped over its right skid VEEEEEERY slowly until the blades hit. Popped off one of the upper control arms but was otherwise completely unharmed.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/16/2012 1:12 AM   
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You know, the ail ticktocks are hard for me bcause I can't generate the "Hand speed" to keep it popping. I can do the fore/ aft ticktocks pretty good. Bad to get old.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/16/2012 5:11 PM   
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Yep that's it, the speed is definitely what gets me on them. I should try shortening and tightening up my sticks a bit, that might help. I really need to learn how to make rudder corrections in tictocs as well.

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/18/2012 7:36 PM   
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After spending quite a bit of time considering and thinking it over, I believe I've come to a decision. I'm going to be getting a new Mikado Logo 600SX when they become available later this summer. It's the most I'll have ever spent on something but with all the encouragement I've been getting from those around me about my flying and progress I don't think I'll regret it. Even my dad thinks that I should go for it, telling me to live while I'm young rather than putting things off.

I've been in love with Mikados since the beginning of this year, when I started looking into all the helicopters out there beyond Align they were really the brand that stood out to me. Learning more about them only made me like them more and then realizing that Kyle Dahl, my favorite pilot, flew for them pushed me even further in that direction. I don't particularly care for the XXtreme designs, they seem very out of place among the rest of their lineup. I was thinking about doing a 600SE at first because I was really sold on the size of my friends Compass 7HV after getting to put it through its paces, but the more I read up on it the more concerned I was that it would ultimately be more limiting than I'd like. I'm hoping that the 600SX with 623mm blades will feel at least close to as locked in and floaty as the Compass, from what I hear Logos are just amazing to fly.

I'm somewhat nervous because this is going to be my first build, every other heli I have was RTF or preowned. I don't have a lot of experience with electronics but it seems like recommended components on the Logo 600 are fairly narrowed down. I just want to make sure I get it set up reliably and such that it can fly to its full potential while keeping things as simple as possible. Logos seem to be built with simplicity in mind, and the idea of extending that to the electronics and overall setup sounds very good to me.

I have a few experienced friends in the area that I'm sure will be able to help somewhat, but I'd like all the information and advice I can get going in. I apparently have until July or August to educate myself!

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 5/18/2012 9:13 PM   
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 Skunk, congrats on the 600! I really like the compass too! It flys so smoothly and it's a very simple head design. I read up on it and it said that the part of the frame was separate from the servos etc. so it's very easy to rebuild.I hope to get some flying on this weekend, the weather looks like it will be nice down here in Texas!  -Sean

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RE: Heli stuff and fellowship - 6/7/2012 4:27 AM   
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Looks pretty quiet in here! I've been kinda busy around here doing mostly family oriented things like helping to move our kids to their new house. Still, actually got some activity and flying in, although this month the winds have been howling around here. Last couple of days, the winds died off only to be replaced with temps in the 90-100 degF range.

I know y'all have been waiting for it, so here's the latest installment of the:

Rat Club Chronicles

Well, here's the deal. Between high winds, heat, various committments, I can't say I've seen much out at Read Memorial Flying [image][/image]Field. Still, there was some action.

Let's start with a pleasant weekday with Ronnie, Greg, and I. Ronnie innocently takes his Hirobo SDX out and takes it through some routine maneuvers. I should have known better, but turned my head away to do something only to hear that telltale sound of a nitro heli in deep trouble. Turned just in time to see Ronnie's aircraft hitting the ground...no, SMACKING the ground directly on the windshield. Now, if you haven't looked, the windshield is directly above most if not all of the electronics, including servos. Long story short all servo gears stripped, receiver was toast, governor gone. Interestingly, the airframe was okay along with the tail boom. Of course the mainblades were also history. We have pictures of the SDX as it was being placed in ICU status.

Enough of that. Fast forward to the NWRC Club Fun Fly on Saturday. And what am I doing? Suddenly ended up with my six year-old grandson, Lukas. So I took him out to the Fun Fly. All the usual culprits were out there. Belinda talked Lukas and I into a breakfast taco. Lukas ate a bit of it and handed it to me to finish it off. He eyed the packages of cookies, but they weren't open yet so managed to steer him clear of that. Lukas was pretty excited about all the planks sitting around, so I was concerned. Then Sean and his dad George showed up with their helicopters and a foamie jet. Again I was concerned about Sean heading off to fixed wing aircraft. Hmmmm.

Everyone was flying and being-have. Stuart started up the BBQ, taking out a hornet's nest that had taken residence in the process. Awesome. What a brave President we have! Lukas decided he wanted a hot dog. So we gave him one, only to find out that one side was blackened. Well, Lukas didn't like that, so I chewed off the offending charred dog and handed it back to him. Ultimately, Lukas decided he didn't want it so I ate that too. The cookies were open by then, so you guessed it, the lad grabbed one and was finally happy to have a nutritious snack.

All through this excitement, a crew was driving a pickup truck around in the tall grass looking for what I thought they said was a cow. Turns out it was a cowl. No wonder they were having trouble finding it. I figured a cow should be pretty easy to spot.

By this time Lukas attention span was shot so had to leave. I understand Sean augured in his foamie jet into the dirt due to loss of battery power. Tsk tsk. Pilot error. Failure to check for adequate power. Guess he'll have to stick to helicopters. Good.

The following weekend found us out there on Sunday enjoying the cloying heat and wind. Ronnie, now down to one backup helicopter decided in his infinite wisdom to concentrate on nose-in hovering, employing the ever-popular training gear (two sticks criss-crossed with wiffle balls on the ends, for you plank fliers). All was going well until we stopped watching him. Why is it always when we're not looking? Yup, he lost it and had a tail strike and that was it. He is now without any means of RC flight until he gets things fixed. Unless of course he wants to borrow my Sceadu. But then he could end up fixing three helicopters!

Now understand that I'm getting old and forgetful, but somewhere during all these days, we were out there with Stuart and Logan. It was a pleasant weekend day. Saturday, I think. Stuart had been flying his Sebart Wind 50e pattern plane (60 inch wing span). Now that sweet plane could fly! Fast and great maneuverability, lemme tell ya. He has a long story about how he came to acquire this pricy little number, so I'll let you ask him about that. But, once again I took my eyes off the field to tend to my aircraft when I hear a heart-rendering CRUNCH. Stuart had managed to fly the thing off into the woods into a tree on the North boundary. Oh the sound it made. Emergency crew consisting of Fred, Logan and Stuart headed off into the trees, fire extinguisher in hand. But to no avail, the aircraft was totalled. Clearly pilot error. Actually, Stuart has no idea. He says he lost control/communication with the aircraft. I think this was the same excuse he used when flying Wally's C-17, if I'm not mistaken.

Other than that, everyone has been pretty much well-behaved.

And another bright spot, Matt has acquired an e-Flite Mcpx and is successfully hovering. Welcome to the dark side, Matt.[image][/image]

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