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Yes but in a very limited way. I live 16 miles from my field so the round trip isn't too bad seeing as my small truck gives me 20 mpg. The only thing I'm cutting out is the long drives to events that I would normally attend.
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Joined: 9/4/2007 From: Strathmore,
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I have a tacoma and it does pretty good. my field is about 15 min away. I am actually trying to find more time to fly. its fun and im gona do it. B y the way its not th oil companys being greedy, it the the enviromentalist who wont let us drill anywere or build new refinerys that have caused this. we are stuck buying oil from the midlle east and other unfriendly countrys to the US, The oil companys only profit 8 cents per gallon, when our government taxes us 60 cents, who is screwing who??
With gas here at $6.20 per. gal. and diesel even higher I try to do more things per trip. However, as said in a previous post, I'm not going to let it get in the way of the thing I love to do.....flying! I just bite the bullet and go for it! Cheers, Dave.
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Joined: 7/16/2002 From: Conrad,
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I feel lucky. My field is only 3 miles from my house, and I get 14 MPG with my 94 Chevy pickup. 2 nights of flying and I burn only a gallon or so of gas (less than that as I putt out to my field at 40 MPH).
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Draftman, you really think the oil companies want to build more refineries. The shortage of supply caused by a shortage of refineries is whats making them record profits. It will cost them a lot of money to build new refineries and the end result would be that they would make less money. Now, how much incentive do they have to build the refineries, environmental regulations are just a scape goat to mislead our anger. Always follow the money and the greed and you will get your answer.
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The higher price of fuel changes where I fly. I’ll only be going to the club for events, while the rest of my flying will happen right here at home. Certainly not an ideal location for flying but since a round trip to the club field in my diesel truck currently cost the same as a gallon of glow fuel, I’ll happily put up with less than ideal.
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... And if I can't sell older stuff to raise money to fund the new projects, it all comes to a stop. So, come on guys, start spending. Ditech will loan you the money !
Since my income comes from the building trade, all you have to do is build a new house or put on an addition and I'll start spending.
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Joined: 4/21/2003 From: Hemderson,
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Remember the days of price controls?? Those were the days, 25 cents A gallon and there were price wars because of the over glut of gas. People even pumped your gas and cleaned your windows, checked the tire pressure and oil then with every fill up you got A glass or steak knife just to make you hurry back so you could complete the set. It was about 1972 that this all came to an end when our government removed the price controls and told us things were going to get better with the oil companys fighting for your dollars. I never met anyone that swallowed that line but that's what our men in office told us. It took about 3 days for the gas prices to jump 100% and they haven't slowed down at all over the years. What do you think the odds are on the government ever bring back price controls or the fair trade act??
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Gas is $1.30 a litre and going up. Luckily the club field is a ten minute drive from home. It's a longer drive to go to work in the morning. I remember before the first gulf war pushed gas above $0.35 per liter 15 years ago. It's jumped from $0.85 last spring (2007) to this. We better work on those hybrid vehicles with frost plugs for -40 in the winter.
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I just can't help but get in on this conversation. I grew up in the Bradford Oil fields in western, NY and PA. Our flying field (STARS) is within one mile of where oil was first discovered in the US in 1627 by the Seneca Indians. The oil spring has been preserved and can still be visited by anyone on any day. The flying field has the prestigious AMA Heritage Landmark award for being the spot where giant scale got its roots, and is only the second such award in AMA history. See photo attached.
The first oil well was drilled near Titusville, PA in 1859, and the drilling frenzy began. We lived at the hub of the NY state oil fields, and the Messer family was deeply involved with the drilling and producing of oil. My hometown of Olean, NY had over three-hundred 35,000 barrel holding tanks, and at the turn of the 19th. century, that represented the largest supply of crude oil in the world.
There is 42 gallons in a barrel of oil. The Bradford oil fields is noted as having the finest grade of crude oil in the world, and reached a high of $6.00/barrel in 1920. For the next thirty years, until about 1950, it hovered between three and four dollars/barrel, and gasoline could be purchased for as low a five gallons for a buck.
After WWII, new productiion in the states of W. VA, Ohio, Kansas, Texas, Oklahoma, California, and the newcomer on the block - Saudi Arabia - oil dropped to as low as two dollars/barrel, and thousands of wells in the Bradford field were abandoned because it was no longer profitable to pump them. Messer Oil alone, abandoned over 7000 wells, after having produced over seven million barrels of crude from them.
Oil was a glut on the market, and the price of a barrel of oil didn't reach $6.00/barrel again until 1974, when it reached a high of $6.47/barrel. That's a time span of 54 years. At that new price, drillers said that it was once again profitable to drill for oil in the Bradford fields, but hardly anybody would take the chance, so the fields remained in a state of limbo.
That is - until about three years ago when oil reached $60.00/barrel, and drilling for oil once again resumed. However, it isn't like the olden days when you just went out and drilled a well. Today the environmental people put so much red tape in front of you, it's almost impossible to cope. Never-the-less, about 500 new wells are being drilled each year - mostly in PA, because NY still has too many restrictions.
The US has plenty of oil reserves, but the do-gooders, the bleeding hearts, and the politicans have seen to it that most of those reserves won't get tapped. Until they step aside for the good of the country, the price for a gallon of gas will continue to climb - I'm afraid, until it destroys the economy to the extent that we will see the stock market crash of 1929 all over again.
I was born in 1930, so I know all to well how the families suffered for the ten years after the depression started. It took WWII to get the economy started again.
I have just written a book on this subject, which is now at the publishers, and will be in book-stores by Sept. or Oct. of this year.
I don't fly as much as I used to because of the gasoline expense. The flying field is 21 miles away, so it's a ten-spot every time I go. But, I can still build, and that's what I do mostly.
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Joined: 4/21/2003 From: Hemderson,
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Live wire, just A bit before my time but I have heard the stories, I'm only 60. Jim, I grew up in Huntington Beach Ca when the oil fields and off shore drilling were still booming but in the late 60s and early 70s they shut down all the oil fields and caped off the wells. My question is: can these wells be opened up again and start pumping again?? All the fields were producing and there was A pump going in everyones back yard. From what I was told they were shut down because of the low prices of crude? My thinking was the USA was going to just use up everyone elses oil then open them back up but once A well is shut down I'm thinking there is A lot more to it then just removing the cap and pumping again. Just wondering.
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