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Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/27/2008 7:23:17 PM   
rdouglas


 

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This is my first post and my first build, so please excuse any questions that I may ask that seem simple. Sometimes I may ask questions that I still have problems understanding in order to get an explanation that I can fully understand.

Today I should receive my Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit .40-.61,76.5" . I'm planning on going to Home Depot to get a few essential tools and some carpenters glue. My question is, is it safe to start building the kit without having the required hardware on hand? At what point in the build to I really need to be concerned that I can't move forward until I have purchased (???) parts that need to be built into the plane.

Thank you....

Ohhh and be perpaired for many more questions after I read/re-read/read again the build docs and start building.
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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/27/2008 8:27:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, you can start building. I'd start with the wing first.

But more importantly, is this your first build? How experienced are you?

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/27/2008 8:31:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, I missed that this is your first build. Do you have a good building surface.? If not you could get a hollow core door from Home Depot and cover ot with ceiling tile to have a building surface. You might consider other glues too.
Fire away with any questions, there's lots of help available here.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/27/2008 9:35:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have an old bathroom cabinet bottom, had no top. So I attached a large 3'x5'x3/4" peice of plywood, it's a sturdy surface. Our Home Depot dodn't carry the ceiling tiles, so I opted for a good size peice of green board. I also found the x-acto knives, tape and other minor things there. I then went to our dollar store and purchased 8 of their cheap plastic spring clamps and rubber bands. Finally I went to our local craft store and found the Tee pins and they happened to have the x-acto mitre box and back saw, so I got those as well...

Now all I need is a good metal ruler, a notebook and a good pen to write the names of the parts while sorting the box.

Missing anything?

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/27/2008 11:18:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		"Missing anything?" Well. that gave me a chuckle. Before you know it you'll have a workshop full of stuff. That's half the fun of this hobby. I would suggest you get some various grades of sandpaper before you start though.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/28/2008 7:28:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been looking around the forums peeking at other peoples build threads and I have a question. I tried searching on Proper gluing techniques but didn't find what I was looking for. Looking at the other builds I see pretty beads where they mated two supports together (yellowish). Is this the epoxy and is there a thread that explains the best practices when applying the different glues needed to complete a kit?

Thankx

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 3:19:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		You should be able to do a search and find info on gluing technique. It really all depends on what kind of material you are trying to stick together as that will dictate what kind of glue will work for that application. EG using epoxies for the firewall is important but not
for gluing wing ribs in place. The kit manual should have a section in the front that covers gluing application on the different parts of the plane. That section can be very useful and will answer alot of questions. The aliphatic resin or wood glue is very good stuff but takes longer to dry than the ca glues. CA glue is more expensive but you can really frame up a plane alot quicker if you don't have to wait on the drying time. Alot has been written about the different glues and you should be able to figure out what will work best for you.
Hope this helps
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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 3:36:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have two comments:

First, get a razor saw - these things are VERY useful while building

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLJ20&P=ML

Second, build the Clipped-Wing version. A lot of people are under the misconception that the Clipped Wing makes the plane harder to fly. Actually, the full-size wing is TOO BIG - The Cub was designed back when engines had no power and it needed a HUGH wing to get off the ground. But it is actually HARDER to fly with the Full-Size wing.

With the clipped wing it will also do some very nice basic aerobatics, but it will still slow down and float in on landings.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 3:55:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup.... Got a saw and the little miter box... Funny thing is the miter box is too tall for the saw to reach the bottom before hitting the back support on the blade.

My plan was to build the kit with the shortened wings; I'm more interested in having a good flying plane then to have it accurate to the original.

The instructions that came with the kit are poor quality copy machine copies, but there is a PDF file where I purchased the plane that is far more readable.



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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 4:07:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yea, you don't need that little miter box - hell, I've never seen a plane where I had to cut 90, 45, 60 degree angles anyway. The angles are always 53 1/2 degrees or something odd like that.

And when you DO need a 90 degree cut (Like on the ends of a spar) they are already glued in place, so you can't put it in the box anyway!

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 5:44:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rdouglas
Our Home Depot dodn't carry the ceiling tiles, so I opted for a good size peice of green board.


The None of the Home Depots in the Fresno/Clovis area said they carried ceiling tiles either but apparently the "knowledgeble, experienced associates" that I asked were wrong. I did end up finding them over near the drywall at the Shaw/Willow store..

I see you are in Hanford. Have you paid a visit to Visalia Hobby? The are near the corner of Witendale and Mooney right next to Me & Ed's Pizza. It's a pretty decent hobby shop and you'll find a good assortment of adhesives, tools and other supplies. Of course compared to the Hobbytown up here, any hobby shop looks good.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 5:48:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I almost forgot, you'll like this airplane. I built mine with the full span wing but it would definitely be the clipped wing if I build another one. I managed to get mine together on glass table in a small apartment while waiting to move into our current house.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 5:50:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Home Depot here said the Hanford store didn't carry the tiles, but the Visalia store does. I think the greenboard will be fine for this first build. If I really get the bug to build more planes, I'll either go buy a roll of cork and apply it over my table or I'll look into the magnetic building system.

I know exactly where the hobby store is in Visalia, but I've never been in it. We have a small store here in Hanford, but he doesn't really carry much stuff. I might be able to get some of the more popular glues and such, but the next trip I make to Visalia I plan on dropping in.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 5:53:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		That plane looks familure, did you post those pics in another build thread? Looks like you did a great job on it. I hope mine comes out close to that quality.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 5/29/2008 6:12:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yours should come out great. Just follow the instructions and be meticulous and you can't go wrong.

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RE: Goldberg Anniversary Piper Cub Kit - 6/2/2008 3:38:51 AM   
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