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Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 3:38:05 AM   
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Here's some pre-maiden pictures of the Skylark 56, built from an original 1963 kit. This was the first commercially available twin-engine R/C model I'm aware of. If you missed my previous post during the build, the specs are two O.S. .15s, about 25 years old, a c.a. 1970 Heathkit GD-19 transmitter narrow-banded on channel 40 (checked out by Ron Ellis, antique R/C guru) with a 15 year old FP-R114 AM rx and mini Futaba S-3115 servos. Weight dry, 4.5 pounds with four ounces of nose ballast; they always turn out heavier than I think they will!

Flew it three times today, in near 100 degree heat here in South Carolina. I had the CG at the foward limit on the plans, 3.5 inches from the leading edge, and indeed it needed full up trim for level flight, and just a touch of left aileron trim. Very stable and not particularly fast; in fact I expected it to be at little over-powered with the .15s, which it wasn't at all. The takeoff rolls were about 100 feet on our fairly rough club field, and while it didn't exactly struggle for altitude, it certainly wasn't a bomb. I'm running 8-6 Zinger props, probably 8-5 or even 8-4 might work better, and the 100 degree heat certainly didn't help!

On the very first flight I felt comfortable enough to loop and roll it...the loops are beautiful, big and majestic. The rolls were what you'd expect from a twin, fairly slow ( a lot of inertia in the wing to overcome) but very graceful. Because of the three ounce fuel tanks (the biggest I could shoehorn into the nacelles) I limited the first flight to five minutes. The landing was just fantastic - it has a nice sink rate on final with a little power, ease it off and a perfect flare and touchdown right in front of me, at Falcon 56 speed.

Second flight - out comes two ounces of nose weight, still needed some up trim. When I get some more time on it, I'll try some more aerobatics like spins and snap rolls and inverted stuff. On the third flight which was about seven minutes, the left engine ran out of fuel taxiing in...yikes! The engines performed magnificently; I didn't get a chance to practice my engine-out skills. When I get some time on her, I'll fill up the right tank only half-way and see how it does. With the engines so close to the centerline and a long tail moment, I'm sure she will do great.

Improvements - I need bigger wheels and/or longer gear to cope with the grass at my field - the 8-6s were mowing the lawn, so to speak! Now I have a hankering to build the Early R/C models Jr. Skylark as a twin - just happen to have a pair of G-mark .030s with throttles I got in Japan in the early 80s that would be perfect. I did have a original Jr. Skylark kit, but I traded it to Dan Hines a few years ago for a Blue Max radio, oh well I'm sure the new version is a much easier build! Russ Farris

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 4:26:17 AM   
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Very pretty Russ, another Goldberg masterpiece, recalling your Shoestring. I wish we had sound!

As to the flight times, you should get another minute or two with a lighter loaded prop like an 8x4 or 7x5

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 4:51:39 AM   
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Thanks HighPlains! I thought this one would be easier to build than the Shoestring, but by the time I re-engineered the nacelles for Hitec 55 servos and changed the wing center section, I think it was more work. I love Carl Goldberg's models- from the sucessfull Ranger 21/30 free-flights I built as a kid, to my current outrunner powered Ranger 42 with ailerons, the Shoestring, Skylark twin and the Sr. Falcon...the are all fantastic airplanes! Except for the Shoestring (and the free-flights) they have airfoiled horizontal stabs - I think this makes a big difference in smooth pitch control. Every Goldberg model is a winner, IMHO.

Except for these oldies, my gas model experience ended almost 25 years ago, so my knowledge is a little rusty; electrics rule my modern fleet. A 7-5 prop would certainly help the ground clearance problem, but I'm not quite clear on the relationship of how a lighter loaded prop, meaning higher RPM would be less fuel consumption. Can you explain? Thanks...Russ Farris P.S. Yes, everybody commented on that great twin sound as they went in and out of sync...

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 6:29:37 AM   
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When you change props to a smaller diameter or lower pitch, you will end up with the engines running rich if you don't change the needle setting. So I think you will end up with better fuel economy when leaned out.

I flew a friend's single engine version of the Skylark over 25 years ago. It was a great sport model and I've always wondered about the twin. Enough so that I picked up a kit a few years back.

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 8:46:09 AM   
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Very nice job, the engines look well inboard so the engine out should be ok I guess, my catalina is a non event because they are also very close, if i have an enigne out it just goes out of trim. Did you put any out thrust on them using thrust wedges etc? You have done an exceptional job on the covering and finishing it is a real credit to you that colour scheme looks period as well orange and dark bue?, excellent scheme. I noticed that the .15's that you have fitted are from that period as well, nice touch - I always did like those old style OS exhaust . . . any video coming?

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 1:28:48 PM   
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I’ve always thought the original Skylark was a great looking aircraft and you did and outstanding building job. My first low wing aircraft was a Skylark and it turned out to be a perfect transition platform.

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 3:04:36 PM   
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Ooo, I LIKE that! Brings back great memories. Nice work Russ.


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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 4:29:07 PM   
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Great build, Russ! I, too, have always enjoyed the Goldberg line of models as they never let me down..fun builds and very nice flyers. I truly appreciate your sharing those beautiful pictures with us. Takes me back to the '70's and wonderful memories.... You really nailed that color scheme! Many safe landings with that wonderful Skylark. Joe

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/9/2008 10:58:16 PM   
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Russ, I saw your twin at the vintage R/C event in NC a few weeks ago, but you had not flown it yet. Glad to hear it went well. I have been putting off buying one from a guy at my club ( original kit ) because i was affraid of how they may have flown. But after reading how well yours seems to have done i bought the kit off him today, along with a Skylark II kit, also original kit. Now if i can just get mine to look as good as yours i'll be happy. Im sure you will remember me, i was admireing how well your shoestring looks and flies. I had the Red Trainermaster and blue and silver Kaos that were monokoted. I still cant believe how slow that shoestring lands!! If i have any questions on the twin I'll be picking your brain....hope you dont mind.....Gene Poremba

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/10/2008 2:06:58 PM   
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All I can say is Beautiful! Job well done Russ

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/11/2008 12:50:40 AM   
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Very nice, love the perfect paint job, reminds of days past when I had more time on my hands!!

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/11/2008 3:05:28 AM   
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Thanks guys, it was an interesting and fun project. Like the Shoestring I built last year, this is another one I was always drawn to as a kid looking over those Goldberg ads in the late 1960s; the twin engine idea in particular was fascinating! I remember the general consensus of the local flyers was a twin was an unworkable project, which of course got me even more interested.

I'm one of those guys who loves to recreate as close as possible the original look, since this is basically an exercise in nostalgia. When I was heavy into the old car hobby (Studebakers) I obsessed over every authenticity detail, which explains why I use vintage transmitters with these old birds! I took a picture of the Skylark 56 box art, but my ancient digital camera doesn't do very well in close ups...Russ Farris

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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/16/2008 4:11:41 AM   
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Flew the Skylark 56 twin three more times today. I hope it isn't boring you guys, but since it is a twin and therefore unusual for a vintage model I'll probably be blathering on a bit...

Since last Sunday, I made the following changes. I went from a 2" nose wheel and 2 1/4 mains to 2 1/4 nose and 2 1/2 mains, which is what the plans called for in the first place. Big improvement on my grass field! I changed out from 8-6 props to 8-4s, which turned it into a sparkling performer. Take-off roll is now on the order of 50 - 75 feet, and a 30 degree deck angle on climb-out, much better than before.

It's still a little nose heavy, with two ounces of ballast forward. On the second flight, I took it to altitude for spin testing, where it stubbornly refused to do so,
in spite of every combination of rudder, elevator, ailerons and power that I could think of. It finally did one full turn, then broke into a spiral dive. I flew it inverted for a while, moderate down elevator required, nearly full down in the turns; again a function of being nose heavy.

After some more gyrations trying to get it to spin, the sound changed - I just lost an engine, but which one? I was about half-power, so I slowly powered up - it wanted to turn to the left... number one was out. I put in full right rudder trim, and since I had lots of altitude decided to see what single-engine flight was all about!

The left engine is considered to be the critical one on an airplane with clockwise turning props (as seen from the cockpit.) The reason being, at higher angles of attack the descending blade on the running right engine is further from the centerline, exerting more yaw force (p-factor.) If the right engine was out, the descending blade on the left engine is between the engine and the centerline of the fuselage, which has a smaller arm. In practice, it really doesn't make much difference. Most full-size twins don't have counter-rotating props, which eliminates the crictical engine. A few modern light twins, like the Piper Seminole, Beech Duchess and some Twin Comanches have C-R, and notably the famous P-38 Lightning, but the Barons, 310s and DC-3s of the world don't.

The Skylark is an absolute kiddie car with an engine out. I slowly went to full throttle, using right rudder to hold the heading...as I pulled the nose up into a steep climb, it finally ran out of rudder, which meant a slow turn to the left. Aproaching the stall, it attained about a 45 degree bank, which a little right aileron
easily took care of. Bringing the power back some immediately restored full control. This basically is a Vmc demonstration in a full-size twin (velocity minimum control.) In a scale Martin B-26 this would be much more exciting!

Even on one engine, I could still climb quite well. I let the speed build up, then did a loop; at the top you have to throttle back or you'll lose heading control; it wasn't exactly gracefull! I did a number of aileron rolls, suprisingly it rolled a little better into the live engine (right) than to the left - I think I have a little more right throw on my servos, since I'm using an old Heathkit transmitter with modern servos. The single-engine landing was uneventful.

On the third flight, I did about six or seven touch and goes. A little power just before the landing flare greases it right on. Overall, I enjoy flying this immensely, and building it was the most work I've ever put into a non-scale model. I'll keep moving the CG back until I find the sweet spot where it will spin and snap-roll consistently, and also help out the landings as it does tend to run out of elevator without power. My daughter has volunteered to take some video that hopefully we can upload to U-tube. Russ Farris



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RE: Goldberg Skylark 56 twin flies! - 6/16/2008 7:13:05 AM   
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