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ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/9/2008 8:25:22 AM   
rangerfredbob


 

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Status: online 		yes, I've searched, but didn't see anything conclusive, plus I want an opinion with my list of engines

I'm wanting a ultra lite stick for my next plane, and I'm going to put a convert in it, here are my choices:

-Mac 32cc
-homie 25
-possibly homie 30 (need to pull the muffler off and see if it's a 25 or a 30)
-ryobi 31
-poulan 32
-old '80's zenoah 23 (guess) from a green machine weedie
-shindaiwa 25ish (not labeled and haven't disassembled)
-poulan 46

I'm wanting power on reserve, able to pull out of a hover, aerobatics, just an all around fun plane. I'm not afraid of trimming the firewall or moving servos to the rear. I'm undecided as far as gas/glow, magneto or EI, any of the three are an option on any of the engines. I'm thinking the ryobi and poulan 32 are going to be eliminated because of mounting difficulty, but I put them up there anyway

what would be your choice?

Thanks!
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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/9/2008 1:03:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		My vote....Hommie 30cc. Capt,n

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/10/2008 11:42:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		A guy at the field has this plane with a G-26, it flys well but is no barn burner I agree with Captin at least a 30cc and a Homey is a good one. I have a Giant Big Stick that I flew on a Poulan 46, what an awsome plane! Ulimited vertical. The Poulan was a brute of an engine and the airframe soon began to show it. I replaced it with a 45cc CRRC. It still has great performance but not like the old Poulan!

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/11/2008 1:34:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I just got a stack of weedwhackers,many of them Homies,how can you tell the difference between the 25cc and the 30cc?I also got a bunch of Ryobis but they had the displacement listed on the covers, but not so with the Homies,except for one.

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/11/2008 1:52:26 AM   
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Status: online 		on the homelites, take the muffler off, the 30cc will not have a bridge in the exhaust port, the 25cc will, actually, if you look at just the right angle through the spark plug hole you can see the exhaust port too...

there's a guy I fly with sometimes with this plane with a G26, seems to have decent power, I was kinda thinking one of the ~30cc engines myself for the plane since that would be closer in par with the G26 than a 25. the 46 was a wild thought, I still have to get the carb adapted to the engine and it's pretty much ready to go.

Thanks for the input!

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/11/2008 3:33:20 AM   
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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/13/2008 8:46:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		The G-26 is a tough engine to compete with.
The Homie 30 probally will not have the power the G-26 has.

Find out how much weight up front you can live with and go as big an engine as you can.
Perferably a chain saw engine. They are in a higher state of tune than most engines.

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/13/2008 6:34:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I flew my Ultra Lite Stik 120 with a souped up Homelite 30cc and it flew great. Pretty much unlimited vertical. My Homelite 30cc is all hopped up and turns an APC 16 x 8 at 9400 and so is a little more powerful than a Zenoah 26cc.

It was a great combo until I "dumb thumbed" it into the beach on a high speed inverted pass one day....

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/13/2008 7:46:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: av8tor1977

I flew my Ultra Lite Stik 120 with a souped up Homelite 30cc and it flew great. Pretty much unlimited vertical. My Homelite 30cc is all hopped up and turns an APC 16 x 8 at 9400 and so is a little more powerful than a Zenoah 26cc.

It was a great combo until I "dumb thumbed" it into the beach on a high speed inverted pass one day....

AV8TOR


on yours did it still have the magneto or was it EI converted? I have some 25's sitting around I have been toying with and might try getting a cheap EI to try.

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/13/2008 9:22:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mine was with CH Ignitions electronic ignition. I never run magnetos. I like all the benefits of electronic ignition, or Gas/Glow.

My Ultra Lite Stik also had a smoke system. It was a lot of fun. To replace it, I bought a Giant Big Stik. I like it, but the aerobatics were a little more lively with the Ultra Lite Stik.

AV8TOR

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/13/2008 11:11:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have two Homelite 30's and two McCulloch 32's. The Homelites have more power but the Macs look more like intentional model airplane engines.

Right now lessor one of the 30's is on a Bridi Stick. It takes it for a good ride.

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/14/2008 6:53:07 AM   
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Status: online 		av8tor, did you shorten the firewall at all? have to add any weight?

the homie in question will be inspected saturday or sunday, if it's a 30 it's getting stripped! if not, the mac 32 is probably going to get the EI I have sitting on the desk...

I have a 9Z radio, so I should be able to have some fun with this plane...

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/23/2008 8:33:38 PM   
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Status: online 		well, the engine I was hoping was a 30cc is a 25, so I'll probably go with the mac or something, I'm probably going to push the buy button this week, when I get it I'll work more on the engine decision, see how it balances out with what combination

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/23/2008 8:48:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Homelite 30 on my Ultra Stik had electronic ignition, but I also had a smoke system installed. It flew great.

The Mac won't have the power of a Homelite 30. Maybe if you are comfortable with porting you can liven it up. It's an easy conversion.

AV8TOR

P.S. Forgot to add that no, I didn't modify the firewall. I did modify it in that I put the rudder servo in the tail. That way it balanced fine...

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RE: ultra stick lite engine choice - 6/23/2008 8:51:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		if you can get a homelite 33CC from a chain saw go for it you will see and feel the extra torque and power I have one on a Ryan's Rebel that I sell and I can do anything that you ask on that plane (80" wingspan, 12-13 Lbs weight, 1300sq. in. wing area) these engines are very easy to convert and install I use a conventional Plastic engine mount, I'll see if I can post some pictures with my daughter's camera.

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