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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/10/2008 5:20:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am making an assumption but considering willshobby(ripoff king ) went out of business on ebay under NewYork Grace I figured the seafurys would end up elseware and I was correct . I purchased one from Wills along with a good on line RCU friend HalHumphrey , surpriseingly ours were very good quality , the issues with the plane is that they stated "retract ready " and that was a total lie .
The fiberglass fuse was thick and did not tin can like so many of my CMP planes .
Willshobbys is a great example of a China suppler with potential that simply need an RC- hobbiest to give them marketing direction on quality and key focals points of the RC industry .They wont answer there emails on ebay and simply dont care .
Nitro /egrand/raidentech/hobby for less/ and the 50 or so other names they use on line will always be a puzzel to me , they chime in on RCU occasionally but there presence is as inconsistant as there servace .
If Nitro business was that strong CMP would not have renewed its relationship with AK modles (ALex) so perhaps we can assume again that Nitro is not doing well

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/10/2008 9:55:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		CMP like any vendor is best off selling through as many outlets as possible.

It is highly unlikely that this has anything to do with NP itself.

From a "consumer's" perspective, the more vendors the merrier though.



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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/10/2008 11:38:31 PM   
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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/11/2008 12:00:44 AM   
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They are the ones selling inferior products.



If so, why spend so much time here ranting?

Move along, there is nothing to see here.





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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/11/2008 1:04:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now C'mon Ranger,

Thats not really needed is it?

The man should be heard.

I would think that this Nitro Models forum is the best place to let it be spoken, bad or good.

This forum is the perfect Customer Relations conduit, and they would benefit if they used it better.

As far as I can tell, NM is not taking the forum as serious as some of the end users of their products are.


After all is said,
I came here to research some of the opinions of end users before I ever bought a Nitro Plane.

I judged bad and good comments equally.
I still do.
I have no ill will for either side of the coin.

BUT.....................................


There is something to see here:

A 27 year RC pilot, RCU Contributing Editor, and pretty damn experienced builder in the process of getting hosed............................
by a Chinese company that has (apparently) had questionable customer satisfaction and some unresolved issues.

I say let it fly!
Dave

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/11/2008 1:42:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes sir officer sir, no problem here. Why do you hang out here and why are you on EVERY topic? After all there is nothing to see here. You for sure got that right NOTHING from Nitro anyway. I wish i had thought of saying it that way.

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/11/2008 3:01:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		GUys keeping it on subject , we have an RC-brother who has a problem with a vendor that I personally will never trust .I dont care what anyone says and yes its my choice , but when traveling to southern Cal , go find the Nitro warehouse , the Raidentech Warehouse ,egrand buy ect look at the business models , the locations , ect ect and tell me there not the same company , then I have some good land to sell you in ALaska lol .
As far as China companies selling thru multiple distributors , that is incorrect , the best business model is one USA exclusive distributor just like KMP in the USA . They control price , image and distribution channles and most importantly servace levels .
Half the planes on the Nitro planes web do not match the pics at all , they CMP and Flymodels for example and you wont know what plane you get when you order , they show a Byron P40 picture for a CMP , there website is so poorly maintained that models that have been discontinued appear as out of stocks for over 2 years .
Try calling them , if you get a live person that you can understand , play the lotto that day , you are lucky !!! This is from a person who has two parents that are imigrants and has a perfact understanding and patience for people who struggle with the english language .
Good luck with Nitro planes , or what ever name they will call themselves this year

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/14/2008 5:33:58 PM   
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Now C'mon Ranger,

Thats not really needed is it?

The man should be heard.



When someone proclaims everything a vendor sells as "crap" with no actual experience, how do you take such ( cough* trashtalk * cough ) seriously?

He's based this assessment upon ONE plane comparing it to kit builds, and then calls them all "crap".

Yet there are plenty of reviews, owners, and magazines that say that he is wrong, ( even if you don't believe me ).

I've posted pictures of planes I've purchased from NP illustrating the workmanship both good and bad...

I've also noted where something is problematic, and/or is to be avoided. And as with all vendors, there are things to be avoided.

He does no one any favor by posting his "it's all crap" statements to the multiple threads. He just does this periodically.

I don't see him offering any help.











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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/17/2008 1:55:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		They are beyond help rofl. The post i did offer help on you griped about that one also. My plane was cool looking when I got thru with it. But the only thing Nitro about it was the body. YOU KNOW, changed hardware not all there anyway, changed landing gear and the way it mounted, Could not read the inst. manuel, Lots of stuff was left off the manuel that as I a new ARF guy would have not a clue as to how to do. And at the time only knew one person that actually flew. Bought the plane without consulting these pages did not know about RCU at the time. Man know way would I have bought it. Sorry I did not buy the most expensive plane they had. I bought the one that caught my eye. Same as I do now. Buy what I I I think is cool. Have giant size planes and also have the air hog little heli, and about every size in between. You might think I am an amature but here is a pic of some of my planes. 3 belong to my neighbor that helped me out when I was starting. But as you can see it was not my last and not my very first. But for sure my first and last NITRO. And yes i am glad that some have had them work out for them but just look at the posts the bad seems to me to out weigh the good by a lb. or so.

Man I forgot the Chipmunk I bought from them is in the pic. Can you belive i would even talk bad about that cool looking little plane if it were not.

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/17/2008 3:31:05 AM   
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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 7/17/2008 12:49:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah Crazy u don't go to far or to fast either. Was a 4th. parade. Did this for the club and the LHS. Or so thought neither would up any planes for it. But the LHS sure wanted there signs on there. Anyway I am trying to help in my own way OPajse I am trying to help people not make a mistake by buying from them and your doing the opposite. I respect that and don't hold a thing against you for your opinion. Mine is just different. Like i said one time with them was enough for me and seeing the amount of people that have never gotten to fly there planes and the ones that have had to spend alot of money to get the proper parts just gets to me some. I don't hang out in here regular and the mixture of your comments along with mine give two opinions for folks to consider that is all I am doing. Good luck to anyone buying or that has bought from them. Will stay away awhile now have said enough again good luck and good flying fella's.

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 9/5/2008 8:48:56 PM   
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Status: online 		Well looks like these planes are being sold in Australia now on ebay.
Apparently coming from a Chinese company called "YH Hobbies".

I unfortunately got one.
I tried to research the planeon here, but of course the company is called something totally different.

Thin fibreglass fuse, wooden dowels in the horizontal stabiliser are put in on an angle so you cant mount the stab with the aluminum tube inserted, Fuel tank exit in the firewall is out by a mile so the tank sits to the left and doesnt fit properly, Wing saddle is out of alignment so the wing doesnt fit, Tail wheel collars dont fit, Blind nuts to hold the wing on are way out of alignment.
And I havent looked at anything else.

I mean I am a newb to building ARF's etc, but I am not blind.

The guy I got it off on ebay has 50 of them for sale. So I am guessing he picked them up cheap because no other company would buy them.

I just sent an email to the Australian company that I bought it off to see what they will do about it. If anything.
My biggest mistake was not trial fitting everything. I had installed the control surfaces before I noticed the rest of it. So will be interesting to see what happens.

I wont be buying another no-name brand again.

If anyone in Australia is thinking of buying the 66" YH Hobbies Sea Fury I would avoid it. If you need the name of the company that sells them PM me and I will let you know. I cant let other people get burnt like I did.

The auction on ebay stated "THE QUALITY OF THE REDESIGNED AND STRENGTHENED FIBERGLASS FUSELAGE IS AMAZING."

If this fuse is redesigned and strengthened the original design must have been like trying to build a plane out of a raw sausage.

I reckon the fuse would twist something shocking in the air. If it didnt just outright fall apart.
There is no way it could support the tail.

I will post the outcome from the seller when/if I hear from them.

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RE: Sea Fury .60 total piece of crap!!! - 9/5/2008 10:15:01 PM   
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Status: online 		After reading back through plumberdeluxe's posts I noticed he mentioned the fuse was twisted. So I checked mine. And sure enough its twisted to the left when looking at the plane from the front.

Interestingly I found the yhmodels website and have a look at the bottom picture of the sea fury:

http://www.yhmodels.com/big_.asp?pid=292&pmodel=YH138

Thats no optical illusion. Mine is the same.......


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