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Digital servo prices to come down - 6/15/2008 11:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		as with all great technology, the pricing when hardware like Digital servos is pretty much double the price of it's standard analog price.
what do you think the future holds?
lower pricing seem possible?


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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/15/2008 11:57 PM   
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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/15/2008 11:59 PM   
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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 12:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		i just bought some 3154 micros...almost triple the price, but man they are something else.
with the way our Tx's hold model memories we no longer buy several radio sets w/servos these days............so i guess it averages out.
i need some servos in digital that can replace 9202's..........any suggestions?

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 1:36 AM   
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FWIW, I use the S3152's. http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXHKB0&P=0

They are faster, more torque then the coreless 9202.

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 1:40 AM   
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those are light as well.....i'll try a couple, thx

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 2:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		The influence of cheap Chinese product will inevitably see digital servo prices drop.

In fact this has already happened. You can now buy a "standard" digital servo for about US$12 whereas just a year or two ago the cheapest "standard" digital was at least $35.

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 5:10 AM   
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The influence of cheap Chinese product will inevitably see digital servo prices drop.
In fact this has already happened. You can now buy a "standard" digital servo for about US$12 whereas just a year or two ago the cheapest "standard" digital was at least $35.


Tell you what XJet YOU fly those and give us a blow by blow.

With the amount of coin any decent RC model adds up to I for one will be among the last to beat the trail to the "low price digital" door.
Forty eight years on this particular 'trail' has taught me to pay first and economize second.

Could I use the savings ____ you betcha. Sixteen years into retirement on a fixed income has taken its toll (which is a very polite way of saying that by then you have been thoroughly SHAFTED from an income perspective). The lovely stock market has certainly not helped of late.

In that 48 years I have both won, lost and crashed.
BUT, after a couple of years of successive crashes in 1960-61 I learned that the best you can buy in this hobby is none too good when you are talking Radio equipment and that includes the servos.

Let me know what you find out [
Oh, and PLEASE let me take my time in evaluating your data.
( the way I have it figured that should easily take me well beyond even the most generous of the life expectancy tables *** Happens to be true!

IN THE MEANTIME, don't take life too seriously as you'll NEVER get out of it alive.

When may I expect your testing to begin ?

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 7:21 AM   
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I trust you read my article on Cheap Chinese Servos?

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 7:36 AM   
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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/16/2008 10:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, we might see slight increases in our prices due to the devalued dollar overseas. I have already seen some small price inceases in my business on certain items. Distributors are citing the weakened dollar on the Asian market.

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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/17/2008 4:37 AM   
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The influence of cheap Chinese product will inevitably see digital servo prices drop.
In fact this has already happened. You can now buy a "standard" digital servo for about US$12 whereas just a year or two ago the cheapest "standard" digital was at least $35.


Tell you what XJet YOU fly those and give us a blow by blow.

With the amount of coin any decent RC model adds up to I for one will be among the last to beat the trail to the "low price digital" door.
Forty eight years on this particular 'trail' has taught me to pay first and economize second.

Could I use the savings ____ you betcha. Sixteen years into retirement on a fixed income has taken its toll (which is a very polite way of saying that by then you have been thoroughly SHAFTED from an income perspective). The lovely stock market has certainly not helped of late.

In that 48 years I have both won, lost and crashed.
BUT, after a couple of years of successive crashes in 1960-61 I learned that the best you can buy in this hobby is none too good when you are talking Radio equipment and that includes the servos.

Let me know what you find out [
Oh, and PLEASE let me take my time in evaluating your data.
( the way I have it figured that should easily take me well beyond even the most generous of the life expectancy tables *** Happens to be true!

IN THE MEANTIME, don't take life too seriously as you'll NEVER get out of it alive.

When may I expect your testing to begin ?

I'm with you on this issue. I have found out that most Chinese stuff is cheap for two reasons. 1. They want the market share. 2. And this is the kicker, they use very cheap parts in order to get the price down. The Chinese can make quality stuff... but at this point in time I have seen nothing but third rate quality out of that country. I'll stand by my high dollar HiTecs and rest a bit eaiser knowing that I have a better chance of keeping my $8000 airplane in one piece. To save a few bucks on un-known servos is really stupid to me for some reason.


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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/17/2008 5:42 AM   
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I'm with you on this issue. I have found out that most Chinese stuff is cheap for two reasons. 1. They want the market share. 2. And this is the kicker, they use very cheap parts in order to get the price down. The Chinese can make quality stuff... but at this point in time I have seen nothing but third rate quality out of that country. I'll stand by my high dollar HiTecs and rest a bit eaiser knowing that I have a better chance of keeping my $8000 airplane in one piece. To save a few bucks on un-known servos is really stupid to me for some reason.

Yes, there is a lot of cr*p coming out of China.. but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater when you consider "made in China".

For example, I've bought and tested more crappy Chinese engines than you can shake a stick at but just a few of them are real gems.

For example, I had an early CRRCPro 45cc gas engine. It was so bad that when I received it it wouldn't even turn over because the crankshaft had been pressed together incorrectly. I've also had friends whose Chinese-made engines failed after just a few hours running.

And then I bought a DL50 gaser and it is even better (in terms of power, throttling and weight) than the highly praised DA50.

The same goes with servos. There's lots of cr*p but there *are* (increasingly) some very good units coming out of China.

For instance, I used to use a lot of Hitec HS81 servos but have found a Chinese equivalent that uses the *same* motors and feedback pots but a vastly better mechanical setup. They are also *significantly* cheaper than the Hitecs. I'm now using them in the tail of a .90-sized UAV, something I would *never* even consider the Hitecs for (because they simply wouldn't hold up under the loads).

Likewise, I've got quite a few Hitec HS645MG servos but I won't be buying any more because I've found some Chinese-made ones that are stronger, faster, cheaper, ,lighter and with better centering. These units have stood the test of time and are being increasingly used in our club with great results.

China usually makes a real mess of its early products but given time, they seem to be sorting out the woes and coming up with some really good products at give-away prices.

You can buy big-name if you want (and my gasser still has Hitec 5955s rather than anything else) but I haven't bought a "brand-name" servo for quite some time now and despite that, I've had no failures and my planes fly very well.

Don't be tempted to cut off your nose to spite your face keep an open mind and you may save some serious cash.



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RE: Digital servo prices to come down - 6/17/2008 6:08 PM   
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I'm with you on this issue. I have found out that most Chinese stuff is cheap for two reasons. 1. They want the market share. 2. And this is the kicker, they use very cheap parts in order to get the price down. The Chinese can make quality stuff... but at this point in time I have seen nothing but third rate quality out of that country. I'll stand by my high dollar HiTecs and rest a bit eaiser knowing that I have a better chance of keeping my $8000 airplane in one piece. To save a few bucks on un-known servos is really stupid to me for some reason.

Yes, there is a lot of cr*p coming out of China.. but don't throw the baby out with the bathwater when you consider "made in China".

For example, I've bought and tested more crappy Chinese engines than you can shake a stick at but just a few of them are real gems.

For example, I had an early CRRCPro 45cc gas engine. It was so bad that when I received it it wouldn't even turn over because the crankshaft had been pressed together incorrectly. I've also had friends whose Chinese-made engines failed after just a few hours running.

And then I bought a DL50 gaser and it is even better (in terms of power, throttling and weight) than the highly praised DA50.

The same goes with servos. There's lots of cr*p but there *are* (increasingly) some very good units coming out of China.

For instance, I used to use a lot of Hitec HS81 servos but have found a Chinese equivalent that uses the *same* motors and feedback pots but a vastly better mechanical setup. They are also *significantly* cheaper than the Hitecs. I'm now using them in the tail of a .90-sized UAV, something I would *never* even consider the Hitecs for (because they simply wouldn't hold up under the loads).

Likewise, I've got quite a few Hitec HS645MG servos but I won't be buying any more because I've found some Chinese-made ones that are stronger, faster, cheaper, ,lighter and with better centering. These units have stood the test of time and are being increasingly used in our club with great results.

China usually makes a real mess of its early products but given time, they seem to be sorting out the woes and coming up with some really good products at give-away prices.

You can buy big-name if you want (and my gasser still has Hitec 5955s rather than anything else) but I haven't bought a "brand-name" servo for quite some time now and despite that, I've had no failures and my planes fly very well.

Don't be tempted to cut off your nose to spite your face keep an open mind and you may save some serious cash.



Hi, If you read my post I did say the Chinese are capable of making good stuff. I do agree with you that at some point they will produce good products but as far as my case is concerned I have not experianced it yet nor have the few guys in my club that bought Chinese stuff. I'll just sit on the side lines and let others test the stuff. I don't work now so I have to spend what little I have on products that will work correctley and last a long time. I use mostly HiTec servos as the main repair and distrabution center is only about 15 miles form me. I have made close friends with some of the people there so I do get a break at times on anything I might need.
On the other hand, I have seen some of these ARF's coming out of China that are just plain hard to beat as far as cost goes. I just wish they would use a quality glue and covering to make these things. Some of the guys at the club will bring their new toys over for me to re-glue before they install the hardware and fly for the first time. I just don't understand why this "China Coat" covering keeps getting used...... it is just crap!! Have not the re-sellers of these things heard of this problem yet?? I think yes. But in the interest of greed they go along with the cheaper product.I think I would pay the extra $5 to have a good covering applied.

Anyhow I'm done. Please post your findings when possiable so we can see what you have learned about these China servos.


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