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RE: KMP Corsair - 1/31/2010 4:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am still testing my kmp gear , I bought it with the plane from Andrew so I have no choice .
Does anyone know the length of the gear struts on the sierra gear ?
Wondering if Sierra is useing the same rotators as in the 60 size offerings .
I know with my 73" CMP , the gear is the same ones sold for the smaller planes , I wont buy them if that is the case with the Corsair .
Any info is appreciated .
Anybody look at the giant scale robart scale rotators listed for $309 by Tower ?

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RE: KMP Corsair - 1/31/2010 4:47 PM   
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I called Darrell at Sierra and he said 300 with struts and another 84 for the air kit. It came with a variable control valve.


Not bad, for what folks say are the best retracts available!

Can you take some good close-up photos of the mechanisms?

Mike I will be glad to when I get mine. I should have them in about two weeks. I like you really want to know what makes them rotate!!


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RE: KMP Corsair - 1/31/2010 4:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Corsair Owners,

The Sierra Giant Retracts for the KMP/ESM Corsair are built
just for the plane. We did not feal that the 60 size would hold up
for very long, so we enlarged the design as big as we could and still
make them fit the wing.

They are also going to be available for the new ESM Hellcat, as soon as we get
a wing and make sure they fit.

We have about 40 sets sold so far.

They hold up very well with the weight of the plane.

We just made another run of them, so get them while they are available.

You can get them from Sierra Directly or Tomas at VQWarbirds.com

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RE: KMP Corsair - 1/31/2010 4:50 PM   
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I am still testing my kmp gear , I bought it with the plane from Andrew so I have no choice .
Does anyone know the length of the gear struts on the sierra gear ?
Wondering if Sierra is useing the same rotators as in the 60 size offerings .
I know with my 73'' CMP , the gear is the same ones sold for the smaller planes , I wont buy them if that is the case with the Corsair .
Any info is appreciated .
Anybody look at the giant scale robart scale rotators listed for $309 by Tower ?

LDM from what Darrell at Sierra told me the ones for the KMP/ESM Corsair are not on his main page. Those 60 sized rotators will not support the wieght of the 15lb KMP/ESM. The one for this plane are larger.


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RE: KMP Corsair - 1/31/2010 6:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Go to VQ's home page and then to the Sierra Gear for the Corsair. There is a photo of the gear. The overall length of the retract is perhaps 1/4 inch longer than the KMP gear. They go in with a little work. They are strong gear and much better made than the KMP. They are specifically (as mentioned earlier) for this model and my cost was $308.90 from VQ and that was including the shipping. Tomas gets them to you in about 3 days. I do not know what H9 gear you are talking about but I hope you are not thinking that the 60 size gear are going in this plane. This is a 18 lb, or more aircraft. By the time I got this plane balanced, with about 3 lbs of weight in the front it is just under 20 lbs. You need some strong gear and the Sierra appear to be that.

And, If you have not put the gear in and flown the plane (KMP gear that is) call Andrew and send them back for a refund. You will not be happy with them.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/1/2010 11:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jonnyjet,
How did your retractable tailwheel turn out? Did you fit doors, if so , how did you pull the doors closed.
I'm installing my homemade retractable tailwheel now and am having trouble getting the doors to close without hitting the wheel

or anyone else that has any suggestions

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/2/2010 2:42 AM   
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Jonnyjet,
How did your retractable tailwheel turn out? Did you fit doors, if so , how did you pull the doors closed.
I'm installing my homemade retractable tailwheel now and am having trouble getting the doors to close without hitting the wheel

or anyone else that has any suggestions

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Phil.

Phil.
I got the tail wheel figured out and then moved my attention to the engine and dummy radial installation.
I will go back to the tail wheel doors latter, sorry.
There are several good working setups on RCU and other boards.
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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/2/2010 3:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		HI Lynn , I may try to return them , no screw marks ect , never in my plane only bench tested with robart valves , did not even open the bags for the KMP air valves .

THe gear I was asking about is not Hanger 9 , but the sierra rotators made for the CMP 73" Span P40 .
I am glad that Sierra is making specific gear for the KMP corsair , my issues with the Sierra gear for the CMP 73P40 was not in there ability to hold a 12 to 14 lb P40 plane , but in the length of the strut in reffernace to powering a Saito 180 4 stroke . The prop clearance is minimal with the gear sold for the CMP 73" P40 . end of story .

So one , its looks like I need to try to get my KMP gear back to Andrew and....( 2 )get some new gear from uncle Tomas and sierra second set in two months lol , my sierra gear for my CMP BF 109 was from Tomas

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/2/2010 6:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, understand. I was a little concerned that this bird would not do well with H9 gear in it,

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 5:54 AM   
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I am thinking about buying this ESM Corsair as my next airplane and wonder if anybody has installed the Lado retracts? Website: http://www.lado-tech.net/proddetail.php?prod=60-2T

I thought this would be better than dealing with the problems of the Gen 5 retracts, cheaper than a robart system, and would look good with aluminum wheels and robostruts. For power I was thinking about a DL 30. Any thoughts/comments appreciated. Thanks!

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 6:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Spitfire , yes Lado good choice , here is what you do , call Santa in the North , order the Lados , then ask him if the Easter bunny can deliver them to you via Mary Poppins flying her unbrella .
Then perhaps if your really luckey the Tooth Fairy will leave you just a little extra cash under your pillow so you can buy another set of retracts when you dont get your lado retract delivered , or maybe one of the Super Heros will get your money back lol .
Now , I would hope your jesting and I hope you simply find my post in good humor but there is three major post on rcu that go on loner then Tiger Woods new girlfriends list on how Lado is no gone until someone buys them and many many still wait for delivery .
Also the current lado would not handle the weight of the Corsair

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 6:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think they have anything for this size plane, unless they came up with something recent. I sent them an e-mail a while back and never got a response. I seem to recall that someone else ordered but had not gotten the gear after some long wait. Perhaps some others have more recent info.

I only know of two sets of gear for this particular plane KMP and Sierra. I had KMP and dumped them for Sierra. Better, stronger gear.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 6:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		LDM must have been posting at the same time as me. He answered that question!!

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 6:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		spitfire if you read the lado homepage you will see that they are trying to sell the company. If someone does take them over and start reliable production, I would consider the electronic actuators (if they become available). I am pretty sure that they originally made actuators for larger retract units. Of course you would still have to buy the retract units from Sierra or Robart, etc.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 7:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thank you for the posts. Is the problem with the gen 5 only with the rotating retracts like the Corsair, or have the retracts for the mustang, bearcat, and spitfire also been plagued with problems?

(I will never consider business with a company in the process of selling. To many gaps in paper work to lose your money) Thanks for the info I did not catch that they were for sale.

By the way would anybody sell their Gen 5 retracts for cheap? I know most have had problems, but I do like to tinker with things. I would like to see how bad they are and if there is any hope.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 10:21 AM   
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Spitfire , yes Lado good choice , here is what you do , call Santa in the North , order the Lados , then ask him if the Easter bunny can deliver them to you via Mary Poppins flying her unbrella .
Then perhaps if your really luckey the Tooth Fairy will leave you just a little extra cash under your pillow so you can buy another set of retracts when you dont get your lado retract delivered , or maybe one of the Super Heros will get your money back lol .
Now , I would hope your jesting and I hope you simply find my post in good humor but there is three major post on rcu that go on loner then Tiger Woods new girlfriends list on how Lado is no gone until someone buys them and many many still wait for delivery .
Also the current lado would not handle the weight of the Corsair



Man, that was funny!

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/3/2010 7:22 PM   
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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 3:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		One of those little glitches that no pilot likes to see. I don't know for sure but think the door hung up on the strut and kept it from fully extending. I have not been able to duplicate it and had no problems before the flight when I ran it through several cycles.

Very minor damage to the covering under one wing. A stick poked a hole in the covering. It is repaired, painted and ready to go again.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 4:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice photo...except for the gear. What dummy engine are you using? Looks nice.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 4:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		do you think the cowl needs its flaps slightly open ? I keep looking at mine in the box and there is something that bothers me about the cowl and I cant put my finger on it

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 5:26 AM   
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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 5:47 AM   
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I am glad to hear you got it all fixed up again. I am curious if you were able to cycle the gear at all. Was it stuck frozen or would it only retract/extend to the point in the photo?

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 5:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Topflite radial. Look at post 931 for a closeup.

I was afraid someone might ask that. Hind-sight being 20-20 I should have gone around and tried several recycle attempts but dummy me, I decided to land it on the first pass. I lucked out as far as damage went.

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RE: KMP Corsair - 2/11/2010 6:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well guys I have mine reserved. I have ordered Sierra retracts and am going the gas route. I do not know what engine I will be using because I will build the plane first and then get an estimate of how much weight is needed forward to balance. Engine will be determined then. My questions are first to the guys using Sierra's how do you like them?? And what is a good size servo to use in this plane??


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RE: KMP Corsair - 3/11/2010 6:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am going to try to fly the Corsair again in the next few days. Since the failure of one of the gears to lock down I have experienced some disturbing radio glitches that have caused some very short flights due to control glitches while in the air. I went through a series of diagnostics with the transmitter, module and receiver and replaced the receiver. The receiver had just come back from Futaba Service where it checked out ok but when replaced with another receiver I seem to have solved the glitching. We will see with the next trip to the field but the receiver that was in the plane has gone back to Futaba for further testing. I hope the problem is solved. It does get scary when the plane decides to do strange things while in the air.

I have not felt the need to change to 2.4 since I fly on 6 meters and have little to no conflict with others at the field. We will see.

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