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HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/23/2008 11:01:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone tried any of the HiTec servos in pattern planes I am interested in something like the JR 8411SA or 9411SA in the Hitec brand. They seem to have a lot of good features like programability , better warrenty and a lot less cost. We have several guys at the field using them in big gas planes that swear by them.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 10:36:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a good functional reason why virtually no high level pattern guys fly with HiTec servos. It has nothing to do with cost or sponsorship or glamor or monkey see- monkey do factor - it is just that their servos so not have the accuracy and precision that the high end JR and Futaba servos have. The HiTec fans can flame away, but anyone who has tried them in pattern will tell you that they are not comparable to the JR and Futaba servos. The facts speak for themselves, virtually nobody uses them and believe me if they offered ANY advantage over the others, we would be more than happy to save money and use them.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 12:07:41 PM   
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Has anyone tried any of the HiTec servos in pattern planes I am interested in something like the JR 8411SA or 9411SA in the Hitec brand. They seem to have a lot of good features like programability , better warrenty and a lot less cost. We have several guys at the field using them in big gas planes that swear by them.

Thanks




The 5955 in particular is very attractive for the big planes because it is POWERFUL and the titanium gears will not wear out and develop slop over time. If you program out the deadband (make is shorter) it can be quite accurate as well, but not tight enough for pattern.

That said, it is not as accurate as the JR servos or Futaba servos especially.

The JR 8411 metal gear is a good servo but develops slop quickly which greatly reduces accuracy. Giant scale planes should NOT use nylon-gear servos (i.e. 8411sa or 9411sa). They use metal gear servos exclusively.

If you want to save money, the JR 821 servo is very good (in the short term) at around $30, although the gears will need to be replaced at 150 - 200 flights in a pattern plane.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 12:26:29 PM   
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There is a good functional reason why virtually no high level pattern guys fly with HiTec servos. It has nothing to do with cost or sponsorship or glamor or monkey see- monkey do factor - it is just that their servos so not have the accuracy and precision that the high end JR and Futaba servos have. The HiTec fans can flame away, but anyone who has tried them in pattern will tell you that they are not comparable to the JR and Futaba servos. The facts speak for themselves, virtually nobody uses them and believe me if they offered ANY advantage over the others, we would be more than happy to save money and use them.


I am keen to know for sure . . but as far as I am aware, there was not ONE entry at the World F3A Championships using Hitec. I stand to be corrected here .

I think Hitec is a great product for it's application. I also think that Hitec may have even led the way for the highest torque composite and/or metal/titanium geared servos, making them a VERY popular choice for giant scale aerobats. It is also possible that "scale" aerobatics by nature of the design, combined with the large scale, makes them less sensitive to servo accuracy/resolution when compared to the design of F3A planes, and with the flying precision required.

JR and Futaba have long been the leaders in this area.

Having said that, there is a lot of top IMAC pilots using JR and Futaba equipment, and if asked, I am sure they will say that it is because they can feel the difference when they fly . . funny that . . . I think that's a marketing slogan, as I recall

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 4:49:10 PM   
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I have used Hitec digital servos for years, especially in IMAC. And many,....many IMAC guys use Hitec servos. I am using the HITEC servos in my pattern/IMAC birds,5955,5625,5645,5245 mini digitals and they all work very well and are very precise. I have used and still use Futaba and JR servos and they are great servos,...no doubt! I think most guys that fly Futaba and JR are seeking to be brand specific with respect to the transmitter brands they fly with (Futaba, JR and Airtronics). You will not find any top pilots using Hitec servos usually due to sponsorship commitments or other political reasons. Plus, in the past Hitec would not provide sponsorship for servos only.

The only well known pilot I know of that was sponsored using Hitec servos was also using a Multiplex transmitter and he is not from the USA. I believe if Hitec had a "top of the line" radio that would compare to the Major name brands today we might see more pilots flying with them.

If money is an issue, the Hitec are great either way. However, if you can afford the major name brand equipment by all means keep it the same! In pattern the problem you will find, which was already stated, most guys don't use them. So, if you get yourself in a pinch at a contest and need a gear or a servo arm, etc...........have some spares because no one else will.

Example:I switched from Airtronics equipment in 2003, great stuff, but the local hobby shop didn't carry it, Tower didn't carry much and I became frustrated one day and ordered a Futaba 9ZWC2 and never looked back (the dominate radio brand in our local club).

Opinions will vary, this is only my opinion, so good luck!

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 4:53:06 PM   
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I think you are referring to Bernd Berschorner correct?

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The only well known pilot I know of that was sponsored using Hitec servos was also using a Multiplex transmitter and he is not from the USA. I believe if Hitec had a "top of the line" radio that would compare to the Major name brands today we might see more pilots flying with them.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 5:04:49 PM   
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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 6:23:14 PM   
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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 7:03:26 PM   
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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 10:07:21 PM   
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Still plenty of time for practice I just test flew my new Integral yesterday that I plan on flying....3 weeks should be plenty to work out the bugs lol!


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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 10:34:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		MHO, unless your in the F3A championship, I'd bet the majority of us couldn't tell the difference at our skill level. So why spend the money? It's like stereo speakers, go up in quality until you can't hear the difference, and stop there.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/24/2008 11:13:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Case in point: I know of 2 intermediate class flyers personally in the last year who were having lots of problems getting their planes to trim out reliably. The planes would never center the same. Both had HiTec servos. They both ended up changing out the servos - one with JR and one with Futaba. They both said what a huge difference the servos made - so you don't need to be an F3A champ to tell. Not trying to bash HiTec, they just are not as precise as some others. Some can tell, maybe others can't. If there was any benefit of HiTec servos to be had over the JR and Futaba ones, people would be using them all of the time in pattern to get the best performance and possibly an edge over the competition. If HiTec comes out with a great precise servo we can use then I would bet they would sell lots of them, but right now they don't have what we need.

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/25/2008 1:26:10 AM   
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Status: offline 		So, which JR or Futaba servos do the pattern guy's use? I'm a beginning pattern flyer (Intermediate) and would like to set up my plane, FocusII, as precisely as possible. And yes, I'm currently using Hitec's. If switching servos will help me improve, I'll do it....RS

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RE: HiTec Servos for pattern - 6/25/2008 1:34:20 AM   
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