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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 4:54:25 AM   
evdreamer


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the comments on the videos. Yes I can do a lot more with the T-Rex than the CPP. I can only do some banked turns, foward flight, backward flight, and hover in four directions with the CPP. And the video of the T-Rex is about all I can with it now. I have done some loops on the T-Rex. I don't want to try another loop for awhile since I crashed the Belt CP doing one. I went inverted and behind me. Then over a tree.

Sorry to hear about your crash with the CPP. They can be challenging, so don't give up on the hobby.

I just ordered some common crash parts for the T-Rex, so I might be ready to go inverted. It would be a shame to see it crash, but I think I am ready with all my sim practice inverted. I also got an Outrage 11.1V 2200mAh battery. I heard a lot of good reviews about it, so I will give it a try.

Nick

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 5:20:15 AM   
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Hope you had a nice 4th of July...

Sounds like the CPP didn't go as well as it could have....sorry to hear that! You are using training gear on it right? Just wondering what part of the landing gear broke? Were you up fairly high when it happened?

Yeah, don't give up! Nick and I want to see you make it. The CPP can be very challenging, as Nick pointed out. I got pretty upset with mine today, I crashed it and broke a set of blades. It was flying very poorly. That is what led to selling the spare CPP on eBay. That, and watching some videos today of the Gaui 200...it may be small, and I'm sure it's a handful, but it's got great tail control from the vids that I saw, once it is setup right...that is the most frustrating thing with the CPP, I am just getting kinda tired of fighting with it...

I kinda rushed it to auction on eBay, only listing it for 1 day. If it doesn't sell, I'll just relist it. I put a buy it now for $99...which I think is very fair, it's practically brand new!

I think for me there is no turning back, I'm most likely going to get a Gaui 200....it may be a mistake, but I have to have one! It will be like a Quark on steroids!!

There is a whole sub forum on them over at Helifreak, those guys really love them!! So there must be something to it...

Hope you don't give up. Maybe you can scrape up some money for a nicer belt driven tail heli before long...

Glenn

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 5:41:03 AM   
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Status: online 		Nick,

You did great on the vids. I actually prefer the stillness of the tripod vs someone moving the camera around, esp if they aren't too good at filming. Even if half of it does get cut off, it still was a great video. You have a nice back yard to play in!

Glad the CPP battery didn't do anything really bad, like blow up or swell up...and at least you caught it, could have been bad had it done that in a drawer or somewhere in the house.

Yeah, I had been thinking about the Gaui all day, and then crashed the CPP because the tail was all over the place. That was the last straw...at least for a little while. I decided right then and there that at least the spare was going. I will probably keep the original, at least until the DD tail unit becomes available from Eflite. But for now, it can sit on the shelf!

It went like this; I went to the baseball field, and the wind was pretty calm, not too bad. I flew a pack in the Quark, and even though there was some wind, it handled it very well for such a light little heli. Then, I decided to give the original CPP a whirl. And whirl it did...all over the place. I couldn't keep it under any thing that resembled control...and it went down from the tail being so stupid. Broke the rotor blade, that was about it, not a bad crash really, just very frustrating! Then, I put the B400 out there, and it flew like a dream, no problems, I did mess up a little on a left turn, but not bad at all, no crash. So I am thinking, "why do I continue to fight this heli (the CPP) every time I fly it"? I was just disgusted, and made the decision right there.

I don't expect the Gaui to be much more forgiving, but at LEAST the tail should hold well, from everything I have seen on it so far...

Plus there is something about all that cool carbon fiber and CNC stuff...LOL

I am looking at the combo pack that Helihobby has. It comes with servos, a E-sky gryo, motor, ESC, everything except receiver and transmitter. I just took the AR6200 out of the spare CPP, so I'm set there. Even comes with a battery, but it's a 3S, 11.1 volt...I am a bit concerned that it may be too much for me on that little heli, at least at first....

If I do get it from Helihobby, I'll bet they will be glad they took good care of me on the training gear issue. I have no hesitation to order it from them at all, if I decide to get it. There is a place Flyinghobby that has good prices, but they are in Hong Kong...but everyone seems to be pretty happy with them....I just don't know about ordering something that expensive from China....

Hope you had a great July 4th!

Glenn

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 7:11:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glenn,

Yeah the back yard is fun to fly around in. I want to cut down the little tree in the middle of the yard, so I have more open space. LOL

I think I was going to plug the battery in the CPP to make the video then one of the wires came out. So I brought it back inside then the other wire came out and touched. I have been pretty lucky with my LiPo's.

I have been in the same situation many times with the CPP. I almost got out of the hobby because of it. Then I got the Belt CP and started to love the hobby again. So my CPP is sitting on the shelf while my other helicopters get flown.

Good to hear you enjoyed the flights with the Quark and B400. You should fly the helicopters that make you happy and enjoy the hobby instead of the ones that don't.

I think once the tail is behaved on any helicopter the rest can be learned easier. So you should be fine with the Gaui 200. You are getting practice with the Quark and B400 so by the time you get another helicopter it should be easy to fly.

It is hard not to like looking at carbon fiber and aluminum parts.

That has to be a lot of power with a 3S battery on a 200 sized helicopter. It sounds like that is a good combo. I can't believe they can put all that stuff in a small helicopter.

Good to hear you trust Helihobby again. The last time I ordered from china it took a week or two to get here. That is too long of a wait for me. Or I pay high shipping costs to get it here sooner.

I did have a good 4th of July. I had a good time with my relatives and I got 5 flights in. Well 6 including the CPP. Hope you had a good 4th of July also.

Nick

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 7:18:58 AM   
evdreamer


 

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Status: offline 		Glenn,

I was reading on Helifreak about static discharge from the belt and the things to prevent it. And it seems I have all the electronics in the wrong spots. But I have 40 flights on the T-Rex and a lot on the Belt CP and I haven't had a problem. So I must be doing something that prevents it.

Nick

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 7:34:18 AM   
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I'll bet you want to cut the tree...but I'll bet your dad has other ideas!!

Yeah, sounds like you got lucky on the lipo, good thing. I have not had an incident yet, knock on wood!

Yeah, the CPP is going to sit for a while, especially since I just read that the G110 is one of the suggested gyros for the Gaui...at least it will be put to use on a GOOD TAIL SETUP, instead of being wasted on the CPP's tail !!

So I may not go with the combo that Helihobby offers...I don't think I like the idea of the 3S pack, or the E-sky gyro, particularly... I may get the heli from Ready Heli, since they are on the east coast. I have never dealt with them, but the Gaui guys over at Helifreak seem to like them. Plus, they have it on sale...$299 for the belt driven tail plus free shipping. They also offer the Gaui 200 in a shaft drive tail. I will probably start with the belt, and see how I like it. The shaft drive kit is only $50 if I want to do it later. There seems to be 2 schools of thought on it, some like the belt, and some prefer the shaft, for different reasons.

I have been looking up the servos and stuff for it, they are some tiny little servos, and they aren't too expensive. If I use my G110 gyro, and my CX2 battery packs (which do work BTW), and the AR6200, I'll make out pretty good...it'll come in at or around $400....hopefully minus $100 for the CPP on eBay...so $300 won't be bad at all....

It will be like a Quark on steroids !! LOL

I know it's going to be a pain to set up, I've read that many times...but when it is setup right, it is apparently a really sweet little heli...it's going to be a project, for sure. But I'm up for it, I like a challenge....just not one that's a losing battle, like the CPP is...

Hope you can get some flying in, weather here is supposed to be rainy tomorrow...

Glenn

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 7:57:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glenn,

Yeah I think I told my dad about cutting down the tree. I think he kind of laughed then just walked away.

Hopefully you will never have any thing bad happen with a battery. I have heard the bad things that could happen and no one would want that to happen to them.

It is good you can use the CX2 battery, receiver, and the G110. That would be very cheap to get more batteries with a good performing helicoper.

I have never heard of Ready Heli before. Hopefully it will be another one to add to the good company list. I like the idea of a shaft drive, but have never dealt with one to know how it is. I am suprised that it is offered on the helicopter. Usually it is only a option for bigger more expensive helicopters.

Yeah it would seem like that helicopter is on steroids compared to a fixed pitch.

When you have to think about the setup of a helicopter you learn a lot. Even if something is hard to set up I get a sense of pride when everything works out. You probably feel the same.

It was supposed to storm on the 4th, but it never happend. So now I am just playing it by ear to see what the weather brings. Sorry to hear about the weather there.

I have been on the video section on Helifreak and they have some pretty cool helicopter videos there.

Nick

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 8:14:50 AM   
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I thought you might like to see this video of a Gaui 200 http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=79550

You and I should be able to do this in a few months.

Nick

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 10:37:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		so figured I would throw an update in here , for the last few weeks I have been trying to get into the stunt flying side of the hobby with my cp pro. lets just say, I am getting really really good at rebuilding my heli , flybars , and feathering shafts and blade grips left and right. its sort of odd to me the things that i am breaking now vs the things I used to break, but I sopose a lot has to do with how I am flying now. Back in the day it was main blades, and skids , all the time , now its blade grips ,feathering shafts , and flybars. part of it is that when i crash now its usualy at something close to knife edge , vs skids down.
stll haven't broken my first set of carbon blades , and they still look good as new after 7+ minor to moderate crashes. my biggest problems so far is that at the higher altudes I am working with to try and " protect the helli , I am looseing orientation and getting turned around for what end I see as the front the grey vs the sky some times makes it hard to tell if I am nose in, or tail in , and then I make the wrong choice and then over correct and usualy crash but sort of softly vs a full speed pile in. I am getting a little bit better at the inverted stuff , but not really manageing inverted hovers yet. the otherthing I have noticed , is that provided ya can fly it fairly well in the first place , the cp pro seems fairly tolerant of less than perfect setups, my blades don't track perfectly anymore , I have less than perfectly true flybar and feathring shaft, the main gear is a bit chewed up , and I more or less eyeball the paddle pitch. but even with all that it dosen't seem to fly much worse than when every thing was dialed in as close to perfect as I could make it . it was a twitchy handfull before , and seems to be just as much of a handfull now , in idle up , with every thing a bit out of true. I don't like to crash , and I don't like that every thing isn't perfect any more , but at this point its feeling like the only way I am gonna get braver and better at flying is to push it to the limits. I hope every one feels sorry for my abused little blade. I know I do.

in other news it was nice to do some slow easy cruseing around for my friends on the 4th, took off from a small sheet of plywood , flew around the field we were partying near , and then after about 4 min came back in for a perfect settle in landing right in the center of the sheet , it actualy looked like I knew what I was doing , it was great.

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 1:19:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		yeah, im not going to give up, my wife is having a bunch of relatives over for my birthday and such sunday, maybe ill get some cash to afford a belt driven heli, Im going to wait to fly the cp pro untill I get that new motor in, hopfully it kinda slows down the head speed on it

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 2:25:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		evdreamer thanks for the pm, Im kinda looking for something rtr

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RE: are these blades any good for cp pro? - 7/5/2008 4:37:38 PM   
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That would be awesome if you got some cash for your B-day! Happy birthday, by the way!!

If you get a belt driven tai