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HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now!


Great Planes Sportster Bipe 40
  14% (20)
Goldberg Sukhoi
  7% (10)
Dynaflite Chipmunk
  4% (6)
Goldberg Bucker Jungmann
  10% (15)
Great Planes Ultrasport 1000
  18% (25)
Great Planes Super Aeromaster 60
  7% (10)
Top Flite P-39 Airacobra Gold Edn.
  8% (11)
Dynaflite Giant Spitfire 81"
  5% (8)
Great Planes Giant Aeromaster
  8% (11)
Top Flite Focke Wulf 190 Gold Edn.
  15% (21)


Total Votes : 137


(last vote on : 8/4/2008 1:46:34 AM)
(Poll ended: 8/5/2008 5:00:00 PM)
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HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 6/28/2008 5:13:09 PM   
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After several days of discussion I've come up with a short list of contenders for the distinction of most-sought-after, out-of-production, I'd-buy-it-but-collector-prices-are-insane, kit list. I am only including HOBBICO brands in this poll. If it works well maybe we could do the same thing for Sig and other classic kit makers still in business. Although I know many would buy more than one kit on this list you can only pick one selection so please pick the one you WANT most or don't have.
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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 6/28/2008 7:58:25 PM   
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You need to add one line to your poll. All of the above. They are all great kits. Good Luck, Dave


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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 6/28/2008 8:05:15 PM   
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Crate, your killing me here. I would really like to have the Giant Aeromaster but I would really really like to have the CG Sukhoi to go with my CG Extra.
When the Master went out of production it was 200 beans, I wonder what it would be in todays dollars.
And the Sukhoi needed after market parts like A cowl and pants so that made the price higher on it too.
I voted but I feel like I left out something that was really needed.
I think Dave has something with that all of the above thing.


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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 6/29/2008 12:21:30 AM   
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I aggravated about whether to allow more than one choice. I ultimately reasoned the product marketing folks at HOBBICO would find the data more compelling if we only allowed one selection per vote. Frankly, there are three kits on the list I would likely buy if made available but of the three there is one I really want bad. Recall when the Great Planes Ultrasport was reissued the Super Sportster and Tracer (I think) were reissued too. Who knows what their reissue plans will be for the next cycle but it's reasonable to guess they'll do something similar with a multiple kit reissue.

I was kinda surprised that the brands were so well represented in our discussion round and in the poll. Unfortunately, there were only ten slots on the RCU POLL template so the planes that were only mentioned once without further banter were left off (including most mentioned by the moderator of the discussion!).

Thanks to everyone for participating.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/1/2008 2:20:21 AM   
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The list is missing another great Top Flite kit long out of production - the A6M2 Zero.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/2/2008 4:33:49 AM   
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Funny you should mention the Zero; I was just lamenting how I would settle for the Hollywood Zero.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/2/2008 9:57:12 PM   
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Only 80 votes so far and look at all the hits?? Maybe just new builders looking to see what the old farts are crying about.
I could go for A Zero too but I avoid planes with retracks on them, that's why I don't build war birds for myself.


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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/20/2008 10:40:35 PM   
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Bump! I added a deadline to the poll so we can discuss the result after it ends. Crate.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/24/2008 3:16:19 PM   
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Bump! Question for the "policy people" at RCU? If you encourage contributors to conduct polls why do you allow the poll to slip (despite people voting) unless someone posts a comment? I hope someone can enlighten me.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/24/2008 3:21:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CrateCruncher

Bump! Question for the "policy people" at RCU? If you encourage contributors to conduct polls why do you allow the poll to slip (despite people voting) unless someone posts a comment? Perhaps its just me but I was under the impression a poll should attract VOTES not a discussion thread. I hope someone can enlighten me.


Because polls are just like discussion threads in that the remain at the top only as long as interest in them remains. When nobody is interested in a poll or discussion any longer there is no reason why it should remain at the top of a forum listing. If we forced polls to remain at the top of the forum list it would overload those listings which tends to clutter them up. This is the same reason why we have a tight limit on the number of stickies posted at the top of a forum. Too many and it distracts from the forum and users won't stay around that forum. We definitely are not going to force a poll to stay at the top of the listings if nobody is interested in it any longer.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/24/2008 3:30:54 PM   
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Ken, I understand and fully support everything you just said. But, by your own logic, the poll IS generating interest if it is continuing to attract new votes. It seems to me that because a member can only vote once, a poll that continues to attract votes is MORE popular than a normal discussion thread where a few people are posting over and over. Yet the RCU poll policy is to let it slip as if there is no activity. My point is that there seems to be a rare inconsistency here.

Polls are surveys. They are used to collect data, not discussion. If a poll generates a large amount of discussion then theres probably something wrong with the design of the poll or it was ill suited to the application.

Perhaps a compromise is to force a short expiration in the RCU poll template (say, 1 or 2 weeks) while allowing the poll to bump to the top when a new vote is cast. In this way the poll will remain visible only while votes are being cast (or someone posts a comment) but after expiration must rely on discussion to bump. That way it will not hang around past the point where people grow tired of seeing it.

Sorry if I've generated controversy here but I put a lot of thought into this poll and tried to design it based on my experience in product marketing using qualitative discussion to explore and narrow the choices before the poll was created. There is no need for discussion within the quantitative poll. I won't do any more polls until this inconsistency is addressed somehow.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/24/2008 5:49:57 PM   
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It really isn't a "policy" as much as it is just a function of how discussion board polls work. I haven't seen a board where user polls are always stuck temporary or permanent. I have seen management stick polls if they want more visibility. Also front page polls get more visibility and stickiness.

The slipperly slope of poll sticking is that dozens of users might create polls and then the first page or two of every busy forum here would be littered with poll threads instead of the most recently posted to thread. Also some unscrupulous posters might tack on a pseudo-poll just to stick their personal thread to the top to get more visibility.

The natural selection where users vote and post in poll threads brings them to the fore. I might consider something after our upgrade where after every X number of votes the thread pops to the top as if it had been posted to. X might be 5 votes or something. This way if people are still voting the poll will hang around after ever 5 votes OR after a post is made. That would seem to me to be the best compromise to address the issue and avoid manipulation

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/24/2008 8:31:06 PM   
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Thanks for weighing in Marc. I recognize that it would be inappropriate to stick user-created polls and am happy to hear you are receptive to allowing at least some weight to voting. I'm sure whatever method you ultimately implement will address the issue in the best interest of everyone.

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RE: HOBBICO Airplane Kit Reissue - Vote Now! - 7/26/2008 8:47:17 PM   
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quote:

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You need to add one line to your poll. All of the above. They are all great kits. Good Luck, Dave


I agree totally bring 'em all back we'll buy them!

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