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Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 7/3/2008 4:52:33 PM   
sukhoidave



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Status: offline 		I was given a Hangar 9 Piper Cub yesterday. Model number HAN 1500. I believe this is an older ARF that Hangar 9 produced. I'm not sure if it is still in production by them, I don't think so. I found a pdf file of the instruction manual so I have a start for it. It is not in bad shape but some parts are missing and a mistake or 2 has been made to it. Biggest problem is probably that the cowl has been bored out for an engine to stick out the wrong side! I'll have to re-glass that and fill and paint but shouldn't be a big deal. The motor mount also seems to be a bit of a buggered up mess.

The instructions are all about mounting a Saito 50 four stroke in it and I happen to have one of those. I was tempted to try an OS 60 FP in it. Will the 50 fly it well enough for me especially if I want to fly it on floats at some point?

If anyone else can fill me in on stuff about this plane I would appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

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RE: Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 7/3/2008 6:22:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got that model, it's the one that was sold before the newest "PNP" version. It's not too long out of production, and from what I've seen of the newer model, the fuse is a more robustly built plane than the newer one. I have my manual, if you'd like it, PM me your address and I'll send it to you.

I fly mine exclusively on floats, I have the GP 40 size kit-built floats. I fly with a .72 Saito, and it is more than enough. I think a .50 might be marginal for floats unless you can find a lightweight fiberglass set and keep the total plane weight to about 8-8.5 pounds (mine weighs 11). I'm not saying the .50 wouldn't fly mine, but the takeoff run would be pretty long and you'd have little reserve for aborted landings, etc. Once in the air, I think the .50 would be okay, as I can fly at a click or so above 1/4 throttle at cruise.

You'll have to add a plate to the floor just behind the servo tray and brace it pretty well for your rear float strut mounts. This is where the older version is better than the newer one, IMO. The older version has a balsa floor all the way back to the tail, where the newer one is open framework lite ply, and needs substantially more beefing up to support floats.

If I remember right, the engine mount was two hardwood square rods that glued into holes in the firewall, with braces. I filled the firewall holes and used a nylon mount, because I wanted to go inverted with my engine instead of sideways. I used the stock tank, and my .72 will go 30 minutes before I need worry about running out.

Try the .50 with wheels before deciding it's not enough, it's plenty for wheels, and I think with lightweight floats you'll be okay, too.. This is a good flying model, but remember, it's a CUB, and has its own quirks.

One other thing, the wing struts, although not functional, should have reinforced attachments on the wings and fuse, they tend to come loose. It wouldn't do to have them fly off out in the middle of the lake

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RE: Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 7/4/2008 2:06:16 PM   
sukhoidave



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Status: offline 		khodges, Thanks a million for that input. I guess I'm still undecided about the engine to use. I'd rather not cut up the cowl more than necessary. Since you used a nylon motor mount how did you work out the thrust angles? (silly looking system they included!) Also how do you recommend reinforcing the wing strut mounts? Any input you want to give on the quirks of a cub?

Just the kind of info I needed. Oh and thanks for the offer of the manual but I have a good copy that I downloaded.



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RE: Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 7/4/2008 11:34:11 PM   
khodges


 

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Status: offline 		I bolted the engine mount straight to the firewall, just added one washer behind the top screws, gives maybe a degree or so downthrust, but there's no right thrust, it hasn't been a problem, that's what the rudder is for. The struts just had bent metal hooks at the bottom that fit in holes in metal landing gear straps screwed to the fuse, and clevises on the other end that fit in metal gear straps screwed to the wing. Anything would be better. I haven't done anything to mine, I consider it a "beater", it might get flown a dozen times over the summer and then sit on a shelf for 9 months. Once the cover gets ratty enough that I have to do something radical, I may revise the struts. I'm amazed at how easily it started and ran last month when I started it up for the first time since September last year. I started out with an on-board glow, but I never use it any more, the engine will idle at about 1800, and I haven't had a deadstick yet, without the glow system. I have never used after-run oil, but I have never "dumped' this one in the drink, it just keeps on going.

I think the Cub flies better with floats than without. The weight below the fuse lowers the c/g, sort of a "pendulum effect" and it is much more stable, handles wind better than with wheels, I think. Cubs are just basic airplanes, require good coordination of all controls.

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RE: Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 7/14/2008 2:10:40 AM   
sukhoidave



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Status: offline 		It's finished and I think it came out beautiful. I'm very happy with it. I flew it today but it was very windy so not incredibly satisfying. Can't wait to fly it in a dead calm sunset. I decided to do it up as a tribute to Lee Wulff. He was a very influential fly fisherman. He wrote a book called Bush Pilot Angler - a memoir of his adventures flying his Piper Cub to remote fishing destinations. He died in his plane, heart failure during a check ride with an instructor pilot on board.



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RE: Hangar 9 Piper Cub ARF (HAN 1500) - 8/29/2008 2:17:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks real good Dave.
I just got mine back out after hanging for almost 10 years. I have an old saito 56GK in it and it flies just like scale. Take offs are easy and look awesome. I've recently enjoyed flying it in the wind, up to 20mph winds. It's a new challenge for me and I'm having a blast using all the controls. Tearing up the sky all the time with sport aircraft was getting old.

The mods that I did to my piper were another sheet of 1/8 ply behind the landing gear mount. I also joined the wing struts because I felt that they were acting as small ailerons if they were loose. I carved a half lap joint on each end of each strut and inserted a small piece of wood at the closed end and a 3 or 4 inch piece at the opened end. I then cover it with cub yellow stick on paper. It's only for looks because the struts aren't functional and mounting is easier. I can have the wing on in a few minutes with the hokey clevis method. I'll change that some day when the craft needs a refurb. But for now, the craft is still mint.
I also added a Robart tail wheel assembly and I may upgrade the landing gear. It's weak and seems to spread over time with use.

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