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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 12:35:25 PM   
camdyson



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The price isn't going up - your dollar is going down!....

ARF's are still cheap here. Don't hold your breath waiting for good quality though - the minute someone produces good quality the price DOES go up, and all the tighta#se modellers whinge they're too expensive.

Look what happened to Skyshark kits if you don't believe me.

Sorry, I'll step off the soapbox now.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 3:24:48 PM   
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Look what happened to Skyshark kits if you don't believe me.
Cam

Yeah and they don't make kits anymore. People decided they didn't need them that bad.
You guys can say what ever you want about the dollar being down.
$30.00 more per ARF means just means they cost more period.


With the cost of gas doubling here I don't have the disposable income to soak up the increase in ARF prices.
I am spending about the cost of a .60 size arf every month in gas.
Glad I have a small stock pile of planes to get me through.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 5:28:42 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: camdyson
Look what happened to Skyshark kits if you don't believe me.
Cam

Yeah and they don't make kits anymore. People decided they didn't need them that bad.
You guys can say what ever you want about the dollar being down.
$30.00 more per ARF means just means they cost more period.


With the cost of gas doubling here I don't have the disposable income to soak up the increase in ARF prices.
I am spending about the cost of a .60 size arf every month in gas.
Glad I have a small stock pile of planes to get me through.

Amen to the stockpile! I have done that too in anticipation of increased ARF prices. Also stockpiled some engines, servos, receivers, kits, etc.

I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack but I saw the increases coming once kits all but vanished. The devalued dollar accelerated the process.

The irony is we pump billions of dollars to prop up everyone elses economy but our fearless, moronic leaders (all of them) don't take care of the home base.



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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 5:37:01 PM   
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The irony is we pump billions of dollars to prop up everyone elses economy but our fearless, moronic leaders (all of them) don't take care of the home base.



That is not the worst, the worst is that the money we pump into their economy is not even ours, because we spend much more than we have, which, obviously dilutes the value of our currency. It's not that the Euro is doing great, it's that the Dollar sucks, as we can see at the pump, at the market, and at the hobby shop.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 6:46:43 PM   
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quote:

What's actually happening is the US Dollar is being devalued.
Consumers perceive this as "increased prices".



LOL...NICE SPIN ON IT...

If your money is worth less and you have to pay more to get the item it is INCREASED PRICES...ROFLMAO

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/7/2008 10:21:38 PM   
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I stopped at the LHS on the way home from work this afternoon and bought a couple gallons of fuel (Byrons 10% Nitro with 20% oil) and it was $23.00 a gallon. The last time I bought fuel it was $18.00 a gallon. That was a few weeks ago.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/8/2008 2:49:16 AM   
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Everything has...and is going up. Have you priced 7.62x39 lately?

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/8/2008 6:58:31 PM   
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545 PEOPLE By Charlie Reese

“Politicians are the only people in the world who create
problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever
wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are
against deficits, WHY do we have deficits? Have you ever
wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation
and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes? You
and I don't propose a federal budget. The president
does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority
to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives
does. You and I don't write the tax code, Congress
does. You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress
does. You and I don't control monetary policy, the
Federal Reserve Bank does. One hundred senators, 435
congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices
545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly,
legally, morally, and individually responsible for the
domestic problems that plague this country. I excluded the
members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem
was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated
its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a
federally chartered, but private, central bank. I excluded
all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason.
They have no legal authority. They have no ability to
coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one
cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a
politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has
the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the
lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's
responsibility to determine how he votes. Those 545 human
beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what
they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this
common con regardless of party. What separates a politician
from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall.
No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who
stood up and criticized the President for creating
deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He
cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution,
which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole
responsibility to the House of Representatives for
originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who
is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the
majority party. She and fellow House members, not the
president, can approve any budget they want. If the
president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they
agree to. It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300
million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted
by present facts of incompetence and irresponsibility.
I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not
traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully
grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of
the federal government, then it must follow that what exists
is what they want to exist. If the tax code is unfair,
it's because they want it unfair. If the budget is in
the red, it's because they want it in the red. If the
Army & Marines are in IRAQ , it's because they
want them in IRAQ .If they do not receive social security
but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the
people, it's because they want it that way.

There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these
545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire
and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts
and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they
give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this
power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief
that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the
economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics'
that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to
do. Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They,
and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should
be held accountable by the people who are their bosses

provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own
employees. We should vote all of them out of office and
clean up their mess!”

Used by permission from

Charlie Reese a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel
Newspaper.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 2:04:35 AM   
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a flying buddy i know works part time in a popular hobby shop. i recently ask him how was their buisness.........his reply: "almost non existence" he told me their sales in rc airplane and supplies just fell flat. and even their biggest sellers rc nitro cars and trucks was at a full stand still. he said it just like they have a "closed" sign on the door. it's a shame what's happening to this country. it's being controlled by the the oil nations.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 2:30:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: IAMKAOS

a flying buddy i know works part time in a popular hobby shop. i recently ask him how was their buisness.........his reply: "almost non existence" he told me their sales in rc airplane and supplies just fell flat. and even their biggest sellers rc nitro cars and trucks was at a full stand still. he said it just like they have a "closed sign" on the door. it's a shame what's happening to this country. it's being controlled by the the oil nations.

Yeap, the oil plays a big parts in whats happening. Well, with the hobby shops not doing so well that means they wont be ordering from overseas so maybe they will be forced to lower prices to make sales.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 2:36:21 AM   
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Even Tower hobbies is getting in on the dollar cratering.
I ordered from them last week and when it came to shipping info/costs they showed no charge for shipping and ~10 day delivery.
But for another $3, I could get priority shipping and get it in a week. I am a tower club member so are they trying to get some of the
free shipping cost back from some of the members? Less than a month ago I got 5 day shipping for free, now I have to pay $3 for same shipping time.
Looks like they are getting in on the (How can I survive in these times?) I can't blame them, everyone needs to survive.
I also have to say they are giving $5-30+ off discounts, so this offsets some and shows they are trying to keep business going.
I know the profit margins they are working with as far as end dealers go. If I was them, I would rather sell more at a smaller profit margin than a
little at a large profit margin. At the same time they can not under cut the local hobby stores for cost, bad for business also.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 2:51:43 AM   
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I just hope everyone remembers to NOT vote for the Democrats this November so we can continue to enjoy our hobby without taking out a mortgage to buy a 40 size arf, and have to be specially licensed by some government bureaucracy, not to mention paying 9 and 10 dollars a gallon for gas to get to the field.

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 5:31:31 AM   
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Dito -Jship -It is ALL about the Value of the Dollar Dont forget - we also unpegged the dollar from precious metals (Gold-Silver) in the 60's and let it float against the strength of the economy we then began the inflationary cycle of printing more dollars (now not limited by gold standard) to create a false sense of wealth etc. and to fund more programs etc-etc-etc.lots of other stuff as you know. If the dollar is removed as the international trade reserve currency and creditor countrys call in the chips so to speak hold on tight.
Bottom line it aint over yet unless we can get real leaders (I still believe in the American people once they get involved) - sooo mabey we buy our stuff before they get even higher ????? Works for me - Im storing up certain stuff when I can while its cheap.
PS: A really great current book on this stuff is "Crash Proof" by Peter Shift
Promise only plane talk from here on (OOPS I mean Aircraft talk).

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RE: *ARF Prices Skyrocketing* - 7/9/2008 5:46:28 AM   
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One last time and then I will stop!

Five surgeons from big cities are discussing who makes the best patients to operate on.

The first surgeon from New York says, "I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything ins