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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/9/2008 3:58:08 PM   
mightyhorn


 

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I know that there are plans out there for Dale Root's Ascender. I contacted the company and they said for a fee, they would kit it for me.
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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/9/2008 5:15:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		A very poor picture I know, but this is Dale Root's Ascender. Babcock tone filter radio and K&B Torp 35.

Plan/article published in August 1957 issue of AAM.

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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/9/2008 6:57:03 PM   
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Hi Ray.Thanks. I will build it light. My Daddy Rabbit built from the original plans is 5.2 LBS ready to fly. Jim



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That thing must really have a great power-to-weight ratio with an OS .55AX up front. At least I'm assuming it has the .55. Come to think of it, the way my Enya .45CX handles my 6.1 lb. Hail Razor, your AX, even if a .46, must really haul the mail with your model.

I've always wanted a Royal Coachman, by Sterling.


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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/9/2008 7:30:11 PM   
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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/10/2008 8:30:35 AM   
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My Daddy Rabbit built from the original plans is 5.2 LBS ready to fly


That's nice and light so you should have no problem with the II Perfection. Actually the point I was trying to make was to keep the wing light not so much the complete model. The increased inertia of a heavy, constant chord wing really messes up the rudder response - no ailerons on these things of course. The wing is huge ( 840 square inches) so the wing loading will be low even if you end up slightly heavy. Bill's original was 7llbs 4ozs with a Veco 61.

To try to promote the somewhat neglected Class II designs here is another - the Oily Bird.

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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/10/2008 7:48:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Amazing, lil' Ugly Stik. I didn't know this fuselage and tail design was not unique.

I had a rudder-and-throttle model with a similar wing/tail layout but a not such simple fuselage. By the way, it flew slowly and - as a taildragger - did decent landings all by itself.

And by the way, why had some of these Class II models fully sheeted wings? A small D-tube would be torsion proof enough, I think.

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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/10/2008 8:00:58 PM   
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Amazing, lil' Ugly Stik. And by the way, why had some of these Class II models fully sheeted wings? A small D-tube would be torsion proof enough, I think.


Remember, back then it also had to be a little crash-proof.


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RE: Class II airplanes - 7/10/2008 8:35:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Didn't remember that, thanks for the hint! I only remembered crash-proof was due to the wing (and tail) attachment with rubber bands because I tested this intensely back then. It worked most times except once when the model landed through a garden door.

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