04DarkShadowGT
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ORIGINAL: 04DarkShadowGT The SEC has been the best conference the last two years, but hardly in the history of football. Alabama is really the only team that is historically a top 10 all time team. The Big 10 has 3 in OSU and UM and Penn State. But to solve the Ohio State vs the SEC debacle you have to look at the matchups. Now also keep in mind the Sugar, Hall of Fame (now outback), Citrus, and Outback Bowl are ALL in Florida or Louisiana smack dab in the middle of SEC land. The only game where OSU was a favorite was against Florida a couple years ago. The rest OSU was either heavily outmached (77, 89, 92, 94) or was just an average team (00, 01). 95 vs Tennesee was a pickem game both having 1 loss before the bowl game. Now lets look at those games with the teams they played, rankings, and records... 1977/78 - #2 Alabama (11-1) defeated #11 Ohio State (9-3) 35-6 in the Sugar Bowl 1989/90 - #6 Auburn (10-2) defeated #24 Ohio State (8-4) 31-14 in Hall of fame bowl 1992/93 - #8 Georgia (10-2) defeated #18 Ohio State (8-3-1) 21-14 in Citrus Bowl 1994/95 - #5 Alabama (12-0) defeated #14 Ohio State (9-4) 24-17 in Citrus Bowl 1995/96 - #3 Tennesee (10-1) defeated #6 Ohio State (11-2) 20-14 in Citrus Bowl 2000/01 - #19 South Carolina (9-3) defeated NR Ohio State (8-4) in Outback Bowl 2001/02 - #13 South Carolina (8-4) defeated NR Ohio State (7-5) in Outback Bowl - Rankings final AP ranking - NR - Not ranked BCS Games 2006/07 - #2 Florida (13-1) defeated #1 Ohio State (12-1) in BCS Title Game 2007/08 - #2 LSU (12-2) defeated #1 Ohio State (11-2) in BCS Title Game OH and BTW the last two years during SEC "Dominance" the Big 10 is .500 with the SEC. Take out OSU and well you figure it out. Or how about how Michigan is what 20-5-1 against current SEC teams. You saying the SEC has only been the best conference the last 2 years, I think 15 out of 20 experts would disagree, time and time again on tv the experts mention how the SEC is the toughest division in the NCAA. You have the right to believe what you want, as others my differ. The 9 loses you posted for OSU says it all. In order for Ohio to be the best, they have to play the best and beat the best. Something they have yet to do in their entire history. You say, OH and BTW the last two years during SEC "Dominance" the Big 10 is .500 with the SEC. Those numbers may be true, but the question is, how were those numbers earned? Again, a division can't play overall weak teams and compare themselves to a division that played much better teams, although those numbers may be even, they are not on the same level. Michigan is 20-5-1 aganist the SEC, but 1 team can't speak for the whole division. I understand Michigan is a great team, but we are talking about a division, not just 1 team, or 2 teams for that matter. I am no OSU fan but you claim OSU has to beat the best to be the best. But correct me if I am wrong but wasnt Miami in 01/02 supposed to be the best? They lost and OSU won. Then there are the 6 other titles. Say whatever you want but just look at the matchups, most were skewed severely in the favor of the SEC with rankings, records, and location of the game. Oh BTW just incase you didnt know Ohio State is 7-10-2 all time against the SEC. So they have beaten them before. Just 0-9 in Bowl games. In 1987 OSU and LSU matched up @ LSU and tied. The next year the 4-6-1 buckeyes beat the 8-4 Tigers in Colombus. Its amazing what happends when games are home games. Ill give you the Florida game, that was an embarassment to OSU to get blown out like that. They looked awful and Florida looked awesome. It was no different than UF vs UM last year. UF was a better team but UM crushed them and in UF's back yard no less. If UM hadnt turned it over on the goal line twice and other turnovers it could have easily been 41-14 or worse just like the UF vs OSU game. But last year LSU was a better team and anyone other than an OSU fan knew that. OSU was supposed to be on a down year after losing a ton of people. It took a freaky season for them to make the game. They should not have been there. But you have to admit LSU playing in New Orleans is a HUGE advantage. These are suppsed to be neutral games and in this case was not. It should have been USC vs OSU in the Rose Bowl but WVU and other lost to screw the bcs system up.
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