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Farnborough Air Show - 7/14/2008 4:54:45 PM   
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I was watching the Farnborough Air Show (UK) on television when SHOCK!!! HORROR!!! there they were showing off a lightplane powered by an ELECTRIC MOTOR.

How long before teacher confiscates ALL our Infernal Combustion engines?




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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/15/2008 4:17:23 AM   
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Farnborough...makes me miss the English countryside. Not too terribly far from London, is it? It's been a few decades, but the memories are clear as today.

My compliments.

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/15/2008 4:48:05 AM   
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Status: online 		Farnborough memories... Must have been around 1960 when I went to the "Show" at Farnborough. I remember a "Mossie" doing a High Speed, blow the marbles off the tarmac sweeping pass then do for ever till out of sight, upward airleron rolls. And the sound of twin Merlins resonating with the plywood.

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/16/2008 3:04:40 AM   
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Status: online 		Wow! It must have been a real treat to go to world class air show like Farnborough and also getting to see a low level pass by a Mosquito with both Merlins in full song! I've been to few good airshows and most of the big U.S museums, and aside from many P-51 flybys with one Merlin going strong, the closest I got was to see a P-38 in flight at the Palm Springs show a few years ago. Somehow the twin Allisons have never sounded close to what twin Merlins must be.

I thought about Skaliwag's moniker about Round engines since I've been totally enamoured by radials after my Dad took me to see the Blue Angels in their big Bearcats when I was about 5 years old.

Fast forward to the late 60's Vietnam era and we had a B-26K Model land at our airbase to refuel. It was on the way to the overhaul depot on the East Coast. It was truly wicked looking with giant P&W radials , ratty faded camo paint, and 14 .50 caliber guns (8 in the nose, 2 in a fixed ventral turret above the pilot's head and two in each outer wing). Some moron said to the pilot "What's so special about this airplane, it's not even a jet! The pilot said "Watch my take off". We watched him retract the gear just as he hit rotational speed and flew the length of the long runway about with prop tips about 3 feet off the deck. As he neared us , he pulled up at about 60 degrees and did an aileron roll and quickly disappeared. The sound of twin Pratt & Whitney R-2800's on 145 Octane AV Gas wide open on the deck still brings a tear to my eye!!..............Steve

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/16/2008 4:10:10 AM   
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< Message edited by skaliwag -- 7/16/2008 4:19:03 AM >

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/16/2008 4:26:54 PM   
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The latest sad story I read in todays newspaper was that the European Union has stopped all passenger flights by the Douglas DC3 (we called it a Dakota or Dak). ON SAFETY GROUNDS.

I remember long ago, the newspapers carrying a story that the DC3 was a dangerous aircraft. They later realised that the number of crashes related to the huge number of DC3s flying, especially during the Berlin Airlift.

I worked on Dak's and Vickers Vikings in the T2 hangar of Northolt airport, known then as the London Airport with no terminal buildings just tents. This was before the current London Airport, (Heathrow) was built. All this was in 1950 while my father was with British European Airways. BEA, (he started with Imperial Airways). They were flying the passenger version of the DC3 dubbed the Pionair.

Things change but not always for the best



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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 12:08:12 AM   
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I don't mean to be accusing you of old age or anything, but judging by your post it appears that you may have been around during Britain's Finest Hour. If so, then I am deeply envious. Truly a heroic time.

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 2:11:42 AM   
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I should have been used for aircraft recognition, I read Aeroplane spotter weekly paper and never made a mistake.

I recall watching a dogfight overhead and shouting "We got one" and mother telling me "Shut up it may be one of ours". No way was I wrong!

We could reconise the German aircraft from the British by the different sound of the unsynchronised engines even when the were above the clouds.

Aircraft radios was different too, different frequency fom nowadays. The aerials hung from the aircraft by many yards with a lead weight on the end. If the forgot to wind it in we lost the chimney pots, three times in all.

I dont quite go as far as round engines and two wings but stop at the Canberra, the only jet I really loved. I was stationed at Wyton with a photo recce squadron, air wireless. The trouble there was that with the price of fuel and restricted flying envelope for Brit pilots caused the Americans to really give us a show with their Canberras. Visiting pilots would go to unlimited vertical from take off. The same thing happened with the Harrier. Our pilots never were allowed the freedom to exploit the aircraft the way the Americans were.

I missed the Vulcan squadron by a week when I was posted to Fintainbleau France, Allied Air Forces Central Europe, AAFCE. From 1955 to 1958. We were 40 miles from Paris and a million miles from aircraft.



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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 2:58:59 AM   
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Status: online 		Absolutely fascinating, Sir. Thanks for sharing those experiences. I cannot imagine the sensation of looking up into the skies in that place and time.

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 3:41:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw the old Vulcan here at the Abbotsford airshow a few times when I was a kid back in the early to mid 60's. The term "aluminium overcast" doesn't begin to do it justice.... A truly amazing plane.


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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 5:37:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: old git

Yup, I was around but not of an age to help.

I should have been used for aircraft recognition, I read Aeroplane spotter weekly paper and never made a mistake.

I recall watching a dogfight overhead and shouting "We got one" and mother telling me "Shut up it may be one of ours". No way was I wrong!

We could reconise the German aircraft from the British by the different sound of the unsynchronised engines even when the were above the clouds.

Aircraft radios was different too, different frequency fom nowadays. The aerials hung from the aircraft by many yards with a lead weight on the end. If the forgot to wind it in we lost the chimney pots, three times in all.

I dont quite go as far as round engines and two wings but stop at the Canberra, the only jet I really loved. I was stationed at Wyton with a photo recce squadron, air wireless. The trouble there was that with the price of fuel and restricted flying envelope for Brit pilots caused the Americans to really give us a show with their Canberras. Visiting pilots would go to unlimited vertical from take off. The same thing happened with the Harrier. Our pilots never were allowed the freedom to exploit the aircraft the way the Americans were.

I missed the Vulcan squadron by a week when I was posted to Fintainbleau France, Allied Air Forces Central Europe, AAFCE. From 1955 to 1958. We were 40 miles from Paris and a million miles from aircraft.



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I wish I could spend some personal time with you just to hear the stories!

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 6:01:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		A P51 hedgehopping and knocking limbs out of the pecan trees was something else. This was about 1946 or 47 when I lived in Miss. Yes I miss those sounds. The Blue Angels flying down our steet practicing for the air show will get your attention also. I hate to show my age but I do have memories. Your storys bring up a lot of mine.

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RE: Farnborough Air Show - 7/17/2008 7:13:20 AM   
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A P51 hedgehopping and knocking limbs out of the pecan trees was something else. This was about 1946 or 47 when I lived in Miss. Yes I miss those sounds. The Blue Angels flying down our steet practicing for the air show will get your attention also. I hate to show my age but I do have memories. Your storys bring up a lot of mine.


I lived in Mobile Al. most of my life, about 50 miles from Pensacola. the home of the Blue Angels and twice a year they held an airs show at the beginning of their tour and at the home comming of the airshows they did each year. The best seat in the house was in Pensacola bay with a cooler of your favorite beverages and see the show!!! Nothing can compare with the Thunderbirds, Snowbirds and the like.

Robert


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