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Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 2:24:52 AM

Strick67

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A breif introduction of myself. Im 25 years old and live in Doylestown, PA. I have flown before, probably about 10 years ago with my grandfather. Probably about 25 flights total on a Sig Kadet, I can still remember the way it used to float around, almost jokingly hard to crash! Anyway, Im itching to get back into the hobby and have done a bit of reading on the Kit forum and the Ultra Sport seems to get nothing but praise from intermediate->top notch exp pilots. I currently am using Real Flight G3.5 and I cant remember the last time I crashed while not trying something along the lines of extreme 3D (Not really what Im trying to get into, at least not now

). The Sim is another reason why I chose this kis, I absolutly LOVE the way it performs. I've built RC boats in the past and finished an ARF plane or two, and really want the challenge of putting together a kit from scratch. Craftsmanship is something I pride myself on, so I'm really excited to see how this turns out.

Since I've given most of my RC gear to a cousin, Im looking to get new stuff. Whats a well rounded Radio I can use and grow with? I eventually want to get into flying Warbirds (P51, Corsair ect) and posibly use the raido for a Heli later if possible. Whats a good engine to get for this model? I"ve read it likes the speed of a 2 stroke, but I am really interested in learning more about 4 strokes. Also, I'm thinking of making this in to a tail dragger style plane with retracts (Im going to assume most will advise against this, but I like the setup of a dragger). Any other recomendations/tips for a rusty pilot? Thanks in advance! -Ryan

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 3:33:32 AM

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Well, you've picked the best plane ever.

I also agree with taildragger/retracts. It may be a bit advanced for you, but if you've got the sim time, you shouldn't have too much of a problem.

I'm one of those who prefers a 2-stroke (Even though I'm a 4-stroke lover at heart) But since you want to explore 4-strokes, AND you eventually want to get into Warbirds, I would suggest the OS 91 Surpass. It is moderately priced, has loads of power and it's one of the most reliable engines I own (I actually own several of them - as well as many other 4-strokes in various sizes and brands) AND it is an excellent choice for just about every 60-size warbird on the market.

In fact, I just got back from the field and was watching my dad fly the Top Flight P-51 that I just reviewed for RCU Magazine with the OS 91. What a great combo! The review has not gone live yet but should do so any day (Week?) now (Whenever RCU decides to post it)

One last thing - Add flaps! If you looked through the US threads you've probably seen my Flap modification. It's worth the extra effort!

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 2:43:43 PM

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Ryan,

The ultra sport is a good choice.

I regards to the radio equipment. Depending on your budget and preference, you can use from many brands. Low budget options are 6-or-7-channel radios around $350.00 and less, including the 8-channel Airtronics on sale now. Mid to high budget are 9 or more channel radios. These start from $500.00 and up. Most of the radios have three mode options: aerobatic, sailplane, and heli.

Technology wise, most of them are spread spectrum transmission. So, there is no channel interference with other pilots. I believe there are a few options left with synthetic channel. These are conventional channel radios that can be programmed to any channel on the spot.

This are my 2 cents without going deep into a particular brand/model.

Pedro

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 2:52:30 PM

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As far as radios go, even on a budget you can get a good 6-channel radio (72MHz) w/4 servos for under $200:

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRXF6**&P=SM

I have been flying for over 40 years and have never needed more than 6 channels. My ultra Sport has retracts and flaps, so it uses all 6

If you can afford a little more, I highly recommend stepping up to a spread spectrum radio (2.4GHz). Here's the same radio in a 2.4GHz version (also w/ 4 servos) :

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSFY3&P=SM

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 5:52:04 PM

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The futaba 7C is also a good radio. It has a lot more features than the 6ex but is still a economic radio. I really like mine. I have had it for 3 years and dont see needing another radio anytime soon.

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 7:22:37 PM

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Thanks for the heads up guys, good advice so far. Im beginning to gather tools/supplies to start construction next week when the kit arives from Tower. So far I have aquired a nice X-Acto set, about 4 different types of glue, sand paper ect. I really need to grab 10ish or so clamps, anybody recomend a good one? As far as my work surface is concerend, whats a good one to use? I'll be working on a counter top thats in a finished basement thats about 9' long, plenty of room. I just need to find something to put ontop of it so I can pin my work down, I was thinking cealing tiles (I may have a few laying around).

My next purchase will be the power plant for this plane, as Im pretty positive I need it to shape/build the cowl of the plane. I have been doing a bit of research on the O.S. .91 Surpass II and it seems like an awesome engine that I can definatly grow with. Its a bit pricey at (370$ if i remember correctly), but it comes with a fuel pump, is this needed? They also offer one without.

As for a raido Im leaning towards a Futaba, I've always loved their products and have never had a qualm with them. I was thinking a 7ch PCM model, but may opt for a 9 or 10 channel to get the big purchase out of the way.

Whats a good covering to use for this project? Retracts? So many decisions to make!

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 7:30:44 PM

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A ceiling tile works well for pinning.

Get the 91 Surpass WITHOUT the pump. It's only about $200 and I have heard a lot of bad things about the pump. Besides, it's just not needed.

I just reviewed the Futaba 10C radio. If you want to go big, that's the one to get. TONS of features at a VERY respectable price. However, it is WAAAY more than you will ever need. I would recommend sticking with the 6 or 7 ch.

Covering: I prefer Ultracote, but I also use MonoKote if there's a particular color I need. I did some covering videos a few years ago where I covered an UltraSport 40 wing. Here they are if you want some pointers:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/article_display.cfm?article_id=726

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 7:38:31 PM

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ORIGINAL: MinnFlyer
Get the 91 Surpass WITHOUT the pump. It's only about $200 and I have heard a lot of bad things about the pump. Besides, it's just not needed.

Mike,
When was the last time you priced a OS 91 Surpass???? It's more like $299!!!

Ken

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 7/30/2008 7:49:20 PM

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My LHS had them for about $219 if I'm not mistaken. Maybe they've gone up

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 8/2/2008 2:09:04 AM

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Ultracote is definetly the way to go with covering. Look up monokote windex method. Generally I cover my planes in ultracote and then use the windex method with monokote for the trim. It works great.

Also look at the magnum 91 4 stroke. Its a great engine. Probably my favorite all around sport engine.

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 9/30/2008 3:44:45 PM

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Quick question, I am also building an Ultrasport 60 and heard the prop clearance with the 91 Surpass is troublesome... is this correct? What is the best prop combo for the shortlegged ultrasport with a 91?

Thanks.

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 9/30/2008 4:06:19 PM

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I would use a Graupner 13.5 x 8

http://www.hobby-lobby.com/grprop.htm

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 9/30/2008 4:25:56 PM

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This kit is SANDING INTENSIVE

Do yourself a favor and get a good 3D sander like THIS One.

Also, if you really want to make this plane stand out from the rest, choose the option to do the wing fillets.

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 9/30/2008 5:13:27 PM

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OK, the instruction manual is alittle sparse on techniques for the wing fillet.... what are the known tricks/methods to producing a high quality wing-root fillet that will last?

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RE: Just purchased a GP Ultra Sport 60! - 9/30/2008 5:23:38 PM

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