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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 4:56:29 AM   
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Status: online 		so has anybody actually owned one of these and obtained tach numbers with common props that they would'nt mind posting. I am too tired of hearing folks bicker about engines, i'd like to learn something about THIS engine, ya know real world numbers, not claims.


and for what it's worth in my experience 90% of poblems are tank problems, not the engine. there needs to be a tank forum where folks spout off how much better their tanks brand is

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 5:53:52 AM   
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and for what it's worth in my experience 90% of poblems are tank problems, not the engine. there needs to be a tank forum where folks spout off how much better their tanks brand is


You know better than that!! Also, I hear ya about sick of bickering. I've been in one too many threads that started out with good intentions and fell into brand wars...whether it was OS bashing or JR/Futaba or H9/GP or TH/Horizon.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 6:19:51 AM   
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I agree with your comments about the quality of the Thunder Tiger .46 Pro but not the Magnum .46XLS. The Thunder Tiger .46 Pro is a fantastic engine that appears to be every bit as consistent and durable as an equivalent OS. Magnums are better than the rest of the Chinese stuff but they are definitely not in the same class as Thunder Tiger and OS when it comes to consistency, durability and quality.

Dead right. The Magnum/ASP and other Chinese engines just aren't in the same league as the TT/OS ones - either in consistency, longevity or reliability.



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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 9:51:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bruce, what kind of problems did you have with these "Magnum/ASP and other chinese engines" ?

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 10:41:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		For those of you interested, there are 35 AX engines available for $125 at : http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=7959

I don't know anything about that store, never ordered from them but they "look" OK.

Tower H no longer deserves our orders with such a high price policy.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 6:18:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		It may be more initially at TH, but if you buy $10 more stuff, you get it plus some for $130 with free shipping. Those discounts are SO helpful. Most of the time, they even have gift certificates that come along with certain products.....most of which I need.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 7:00:34 PM   
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Me too, Victor.

I recommend that newbies buy OS engines for their first model. They need maximum reliability and minimum fussing. OS is one of the most consistent engines out of the box on the planet Earth. I advise the newbie to wait a while before trying the less expensive engines unless they have the help of a dedicated engine man to get them through the tough times (break-in).


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I like maximum reliability and minimum fussing with anything that I buy.....

The OS AX series are about as close to being electric as they can get. Instead of using a battery charger you fill the fuel tank. Spin the propeller and it turns on.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 9:50:34 PM   
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It may be more initially at TH, but if you buy $10 more stuff, you get it plus some for $130 with free shipping. Those discounts are SO helpful. Most of the time, they even have gift certificates that come along with certain products.....most of which I need.


What is the coupon code that allows this ? I can only see the $20 off order but no free shipping ...

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/3/2008 11:47:58 PM   
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Bruce, what kind of problems did you have with these "Magnum/ASP and other chinese engines" ?

There tends to be a greater variance between individual engines.

I bought two Magnum/ASP52 engines with a view to using them on a twin. Even though they were run in identically, they were like chalk and cheese.

One of them never did run right in the mid-range and even when I swapped carbies, the bad one was still no better.

There are other niggly little things like the way they use two screws to hold the carby to the crankcase. Since these screws thread into a fairly light piece of aluminum in the carby, overtightening those screws will strip the thread. However, if you don't tighten them enough, they will vibrate loose and the engine will suck air and die in the air.

By comparison, the single-bolt method used by TT and many other manufacturers is far more reliable.

The mufflers on those cheap Chinese engines also seem to fall to bits very frequently.

We have over a dozen regularly flown TT46Pro engines in our club and they all run the same. Totally reliable, easy to start, plenty of power.

There are about five Magnum/ASP engines in the club and they're all different. Some run okay, some are nothing but trouble.

If you get a *good* Chinese engine then you'll be very happy but if you get an average/bad one you'll be less pleased.

Every now and then I buy another cheap Chinese engine in the hope that things have changed and almost without exception (okay, my SK90 is an exception) I am simply reminded that it's usually a false economy and simply buy another Japanese or Taiwanese engine.

So far this year I've lost two planes to those "cheap" Chinese engines which means they ended up costing me *more* than an OS or TT.

Lots of folks have had great success with the likes of SK, JBA, SuperTigre, etc but I really wonder what they're using as a frame of reference. Have some of them simply never had a *really* good engine to compare them with or are they just lucky enough to get one where all the parts are within spec?

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/4/2008 2:57:27 AM   
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It may be more initially at TH, but if you buy $10 more stuff, you get it plus some for $130 with free shipping. Those discounts are SO helpful. Most of the time, they even have gift certificates that come along with certain products.....most of which I need.


What is the coupon code that allows this ? I can only see the $20 off order but no free shipping ...


Members get free shipping on pre-discount subtotals $149.90 and over.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/4/2008 4:31:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a saver membership, but I don't often order over $150 to get the free shipping deal. $140 is way too expensive for the new cheapo built OS. I still have OS engines that have the bronze/brass glow plug threads from years past, even the latest chinese ST engines have them and a new ST .40 is less than half the price of a .35AX!

I'm afraid I won't be buying one of these engines, getting less for more $ is no deal.

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/9/2008 12:25:56 PM   
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Seems there is some misunderstanding with regards to the connecting rod???

Seems to be a good engine!!!

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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/9/2008 12:36:33 PM   
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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/9/2008 1:02:55 PM   
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Hi Everyone

Seems there is some misunderstanding with regards to the connecting rod???

Seems to be a good engine!!!






Many of the later OS engines are not equipped with an upper wrist pin bearing. Perhaps this engine is targeted for high rpm usage? When I pay that much for a two-stroke engine, I expect for both ends to be bushed.

I have two OS .55AX engines presently. I discovered after I bought them that they were not bushed at both ends of the connecting rod. Had I known before I purchased them, I would not have bought them. There simply is no excuse for this as far as I'm concerned.

I expect el cheapo tactics to be used when I pay low money for an engine. I get furious when I find out that it was done with an expensive engine whose purchase was made based upon prior history. Their reputation went out the window with me after that trick.

I'm not "bad mouthing" OS. I'm simply stating the truth as I perceive it. We can change their behavior if we tell them what we expect and what we will pay high prices for in the future.

They should understand that if I never used another OS engine, my enjoyment of the hobby would not change perceptibly. The present Chinese made engines are that good.


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RE: 35AX in stock! opinions? - 8/9/2008 1:21:21 PM   
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I have a saver membership, but I don't often order over $150 to get the free shipping deal. $140 is way too expensive for the new cheapo built OS. I still have OS engines that have the bronze/brass glow plug threads from years past, even the latest chinese ST engines have them and a new ST .40 is less than half the price of a .35AX!

I'm afraid I won't be buying one of these engines, getting less for more $ is no deal.


Are you saying the AX .35 doesn't have a threaded insert in the head? That's unbelievable. OS must have MBA's sitting in offices who have never even run a glow engine cutting costs/corners. If they want to save 10jpy (9 cents) then ship the engine without a prop nut. At least that doesn't degrade quality.

David

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