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PAPE -> nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/19/2008 8:09 AM)

I saw the new su-26 but there are no specs for it.



nitrostaff1 -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/20/2008 2:02 AM)

It's an upcomming new product from us we'll post detailed spec once we have it.

Thanks
John
Nitro Planes



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/29/2008 10:30 PM)

hey Nitrostaf, how is the Suk coming along? is it availible yet ? I'm really interested in this one, a good friend has a 50CC Yak in my club and its a nice plane. also some pics with the inside construction would be nice,

Thank you,


Kenric.



nitrostaff1 -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/30/2008 1:31 AM)

sorry i don't have much info on it. will notify you guys once it's in.

John
Nitro Planes



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/31/2008 2:42 AM)

hey NitroStaff thanks for the reply. wha is the estimated date you guys would be getting this plane in stock?

Thank you

Kenric.



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (8/31/2008 2:45 AM)

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PAPE -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/7/2008 10:40 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kenrico

hey Nitrostaf, how is the Suk coming along? is it availible yet ? I'm really interested in this one, a good friend has a 50CC Yak in my club and its a nice plane. also some pics with the inside construction would be nice,

Thank you,


Kenric.


Hi Kenrico, I will be in honduras in a few months (business), and it would be verry nice to go visit another flying field, what the name of the club? is it accesible? what part of honduras is it in?

Thanks



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/9/2008 3:28 AM)

Hey PAPE

Nice to hear your coming to Honduras, there are 3 flying Clubs in Honduras. 1 is in Tegucigalpa which is the capital, another in San Pedro Sula, and the last in La Ceiba so it all depends where your going to be. I live in La Ceiba wich has the smallest club of all 3 and would be happy to take you to the field, and if you are goin to one of the other cities just let me know and we could arange some one to help you out. let me know when your coming and where.

Kenric.



z06kal -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/11/2008 4:04 PM)

Nitroplanes is there any word on the specs for this plane yet?



bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/11/2008 8:32 PM)

Got my plane today..here is specs from the manual:

50cc-85cc Sukhoi SU-26

Wing Span: 87.5"
Flying Weight: 17.0 lbs
Fuselage Length: 76.5"
Wing Area 1333.8 sq. in.
Engine Required: DA50-DA85


bobzilla
www.evflyer.org




nitrostaff1 -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/11/2008 10:47 PM)

Thanks for the help.

John
Nitro Planes




Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/11/2008 11:59 PM)

Hey Nitrostaff

I talked with your online chat support and they told me that the plane was in stock but the specs where alot different from the ones Bobzilla posted, as follows is what she said, what is the correct specs ?

Thank you for your help

Kenric

Wing Span: 2020mm / 79.5 in

Amy: Weight: 5500-6200g

Amy: Wing Area : 1232sq in/80 sq dm

Amy: Engine : Gas Engine: 45cc - 50cc

Amy: Engine Required: Gas Engine: 45cc - 50cc

Amy: Radio Required: 4 Channels ; 6 servos



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 12:03 AM)

The web -site is now saying 97.5" for wingspan, [sm=confused.gif]



bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 12:17 AM)

I measured my wings and fuselage.
Each wing is 40.5"
The width of the fuselage where the wings insert to is 6.5"
The total wing span with my tape is exactly 87.5"

Anyone supplying other than that info obviously does not have the plane in his hand like I do!

The fuselage does not have a tunnel for pipes. The front motor mount is NOT attached and is supplied so that you can mount various motors.
The fuselage has 2 cutouts already for dual rudder servo pull-pull. The hardware kit includes pull-pull cable and servo arm for 1 servo.
The wings, tail hinges are robarts and are pre-drilled. The landing gear is nicely formed and painted. I have owned/built many 30% planes
and this is ONE NICE ARF for $299.

P.S. The plane is sweet and here is a comparison to other similar sized planes and there respective price, wingspan, wing area:

Nitroplanes Sukhoi SU-26 - $299 + shipping
Wing Span: 87.5"
Flying Weight: 17.0 lbs
Fuselage Length: 76.5"
Wing Area 1333.8 sq. in.
Engine Required: DA50-DA85


TOC Extra 260 - $499 + shipping
Wingspan: 87"
Wing Area: 1290 sq in
Length: 72"
Flying Weight: 16.5 lbs

TOC Yak 30% - $549 + shipping
Wingspan: 87"
Wing Area: 1411 sq in
Length: 75.5"
Flying Weight: 16.5 lbs
Engine: 50cc

PAU Edge 540 III - $599 + shipping
Wingspan: 85"
WingArea: 1385 sq. in.
Fuselage: 76"
Weight: 15.5-16.5 lbs
Engine 40cc-60cc

Somenzini 86" Yak - $649.95 + shipping
Wing Span: 86"
Wing Area: 1,420 sq in
Weight: 15.5-17 lbs
Engine: 50cc - 60cc gas

Dietrich Extra 260 - $595 + shipping (decals extra $125.00)
Wingspan: 87"
Wing Area: 1392 sq in
Length: 78"
Weight: 16-18 lbs
Engine: 50 cc to 60 cc

AeroWorks Extra 300LP - $699.95 + shipping
Wing span 86 inches.
Wing Area 1350 sq. in.
Fuselage Length 72" (Rudder to front of cowling)
Fuselage length 77" ( Rudder to front of spinner)
Weight 15.5 to 16.5 lbs
Engine 50cc Gas

Extreme Flight 88" Yak - $649.95 + shipping
Wingspan: 88 inches
Length: 86 inches
Wing Area: 1450 sq. in.
Weight: 16.5-18.5 lbs
Power: 50cc-60cc Gas

(The steel ruler next to wing is 1 meter long)





bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 1:45 AM)

The manual for the plane shows the DA-85 as the preferred engine for this arf.
Here is a scan of the manual for intall of DA-85.
It also says recommended MTW 100 cannister with headers..and THERE IS NO TUNNEL IN THIS ARF..for cannisters to fit.
If you look at the manual closely, you can see the DA-85 is with a PITTS style muffler.










nitro wing -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 4:43 AM)

would a DA 85 in this frame not be considered idiotic? a strong 50-60 should be plenty by normal standards??
Normal,meaning,extensive power.
The DA 85 is for a 24 pound aerobat,no??.Those number outline a perfect combo for a light 50cc.


Nitroplanes Sukhoi SU-26 - $299 + shipping
Wing Span: 87.5"
Flying Weight: 17.0 lbs
Fuselage Length: 76.5"
Wing Area 1333.8 sq. in.
Engine Required: DA50-DA85





bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 5:41 AM)

I think the DA-85 would be way over-powered and too heavy to properly balance the plane. The plane looks and smell 50-60cc..but not 85!
There is no metal brackets on landing gear attachment blocks, and only double ply (1/8") on sides of motor box and a 1/4 ply front mount. This is far
too weak to support the power and weight of a 80-85cc motor. The plastic hatch is weak and mine was cracked upon receipt.
I think this plane would sing with a DA-50 or 3w55 or even an EVO 58.
The distance from motor box to front of the cowl is 6 7/8" to 6 3/4" depending how much cowl you want to overlap the hatch front.
With 3" standoff on my DA-50 and a spinner backplate, the prop should clear the cowl fine.
There is no plywood ring inside the cowl, like you find in many YAK arfs. Attachment is via bolts thru cowl to hardwood block with blind nuts on fuselage.
Axles are bolts, which I will be replacing with titanium axles. The rest of the hardware is great..including phenolic arms for
rudder, ailerons, and elevator servos. See attached photos for this hardware.

bobzilla
www.evflyers.org








nitro wing -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 6:23 AM)

Its cool that you actually have one.For this price,it makes for a good second/backup airframe.
If you can,keep this thread active with your build/fly inputs [8D]



Kenrico -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 7:51 AM)

Thank you very much Bobzilla for the pics[sm=thumbs_up.gif]



PAPE -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 9:02 AM)

I would really be intrested in the RTF weight, There is a reason why it recomends an 85cc engine and not a 50cc......



bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 2:21 PM)

If you look at the info from the other planes I listed..you will find most are showing very similar flying weights of near to 17lbs, and none of them
recommend an 85cc engine. I have owned many of those listed and 50cc flew each one of them quite fine. I think anyone who puts in an 85cc into
this airframe would be asking for trouble. Just my opinion..

NITROPLANES WEBSITE INCORRECTLY LIST THE WINGSPAN OF 97.5". This is INCORRECT! It is 87.5.

It would also be interesting to see how difficult it would be to get the cg right with a DA-85.


Bozilla
www.theultimategamer.net/carnage



z06kal -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 3:52 PM)

Bobzilla could you weigh the plane empty?



bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 4:10 PM)

empty? empty of fuel after building?
If your asking for weight before I build..I do not have an accurate scale for that.





z06kal -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 5:04 PM)

Bobzilla do you have a decent digital bathroom scale? Just weigh yourself and then pickup the assembled (empty) airframe and then weigh yourself again. It might be off .5-1 pound but it will give us a good ball park. Mine is only off by about .25 pound (4oz) at most.



bobzilla -> RE: nitro planes SU-26 50CC specs (9/12/2008 5:53 PM)

*** WARNING ***
After reading the manual, it is very evident that the supplied manual is NOT the correct manual that should have been supplied with this ARF or it is erroreously written in many areas.

There are many inconsistanties and here I will mention a few:

1 - Landing gear installation is completely different from the text vs the supplied pictures/hardware. Supplied hardware is bolts and two different types of nuts that screw on the axle BOLT. The text in the manual talks about wheel collars, filing flat spots on axles. The reference to installing the gear says to use
4 socket head screw and 4 lock nuts..when in fact..the gear uses 5 screws and has blind nuts installed in the fuselage (it would be impossible to use
lock nuts as you could not get your hand nor a wrench to that area.
2 - The installation of the switches show in the pictures a completely different fuselage with pre-identified locations to mount the 3 switches. There are no
such locations on the fuselage.
3 - The maunal provides no info or directions on mounting the front hatch pins. The manual also says to install the blind nuts on the hatch rearward tabs..but this is already been done at factory.
4 - If you look closely at the motor box area in the pictures..you will see it is a completely different motor box and surrounding area. (See my scan of motor box vs my pictures).
5- The pictures in manual show a completely different tank mount surface (platform) than what actually is. There is no predefined mounting platform nor one supplied. No pictures/text exist on how to assemble the tank hardware nor mounting.
6 - Page 8 of manual (elevator servo installation), Step 1 says to intall the elevator servo into the stabilizer, which is not the case. The servo is NOT INSTALLED in the elevator, but on the side of the fuselage. Page 13 actually repeats this process correctly (Stabilizer installation), but is completely void of any installation of the carbon fiber anti-rotation pins.
7 - There is no mention in the manual on how to install any of the robart hinges, nor any assembly pictures/text for this. Althought this is common hat to many who have used Robarts hinges before, a beginner needs and should be instructed on these hinges properly.
8 - There is no centering marks on motor box front plate, nor any template. The template shown in manual being used to mount a DA-85 is not supplied.

I would use common sense when building this ARF and do not rely on this manual as being even close to accurate.

Hopefully, NitroPlanes will produce a better and more accurate/complete manual in the near future.



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