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How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/26/2008 5:43:27 PM   
Hughes500E



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Had the first flight on my Sukhoi the other day with the MT57. Impressed with subsequent starts (2 flips) , temperature was 180ish and dropped to 160 after only a few minutes. I can't won't comment on power just yet, I am running an MTW75K cannister and I'm very rich, 16oz 32:1 is good for 6 minutes

I do have a good vibration around 2600 RPM or so, makes the can shake pretty good, other than that it runs very nice. I'm sure being so rich is not helping.

How is your's doing?
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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/27/2008 1:14:04 AM   
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yep,i have a little vibration between 2000-3000, it is more notice when i was running a tuned pipe.now i am running a pitts muffler until i can get a new pipe. and this time i will try a 15" header instead of a 11" as recommended by Pe,that is with a MTW pipe,he said there will be a big difference in performance.
also i was getting a little fuel spitting out the carb but a new set of reeds from Larry fix that problem.
mine starts easy also,two primer flips and one ignition and it's running.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/27/2008 5:47:02 PM   
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This must be the quietest gas engine ever.......
With so many customers world wide, I find it hard to believe none of them have heard of RC Universe!



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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 12:23:01 PM   
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I took mine out of a 21 pound Yak 54 and put it in a 17 pound WACO bipe. It's really too much engine for the bipe unless I'm going straight up any more than half throttle is making me nervous of tearing the wings off, I've added flying wires to help keep the wings on. I have a MT header and canister on it, it sounds good. It seems to like the 23A Xoar prop.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 4:21:09 PM   
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Soarrich, how is the flex header holding up? Did you run the engine without the exhaust setup first to see what your gain was? I may try one of the header/can combos, let me know what you think of it.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 5:25:59 PM   
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The header and can is definitely a good price. I'll be trying the XOAR 23A on mine this afternoon!

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 5:29:24 PM   
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I'm just not a big fan of the flex header material, I've yet to see one that really lasts. I heard a rumor though, that this one is pretty tough, so I thought I would ask...let me know if any of you have some time on one.

Chad

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 10:03:26 PM   
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No problems with the header yet, I don't expect any, this is not flex gas line that it looks like.

I don't do rpms anymore, in the spring I did that and got really big numbers on rpm and thrust, then could not reproduce them and looked stupid. I turns out it was too winding to fly, so I did rpm and thrust test, you will get great readings in the wind even a small amount of wind throws the numbers way off. Now I use the tach to peak the engine, but I'm not overly concerned about the number, I just want to maximize it. I've found that some props that got great numbers didn't really fly the plane well, and other props that didn't get great numbers flew very well.

I'm running the canister which I'm pretty sure cost you about 200 rpm, but is half as loud as the stock muffler. I don't like loud engines, so some performance penalty is OK with me. I haven't run a pipe since the spring when I did the rpm and thrust test, it was too loud for a enjoyable time and that is what I'm looking for, not to scare the deer and geese out of the park.

I've got about 15 gas engines, 5~6 that I run a lot, in the last two years doing gas I've learned a few things:

Fly the prop before you praise or rag on it.
Piston port induction engines ALL need a velocity stack, reed valve engines don't much care if they have one.
Baffle your cowl for better airflow through the engine's fins.
Keep the carb out of the slipstream.
Keep the prop tip speed down below 450 mph, which is about a 23 inch prop doing 6600 on the ground, after that they get noisy quickly.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/28/2008 10:17:57 PM   
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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/29/2008 2:06:48 AM   
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Really good post Rich. I haven't been able to run mine since I broke my Stinger before I got a chance to fly it. I did get to run one tankful fthrough My 57 and what I seen was very promising. I have an Aeroworks Pitts Python downstairs waiting for it, but I'm in the middle of home renovations and I doubt I will get a chance to build it before winter sets in. I am hoping to try and get it done though as I really want to test this engine properly.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/29/2008 8:07:21 AM   
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I managed to get one flight in this afternoon. The XOAR 23A is a nice prop. I am still rich but the vertical was impressive!
Hoping for better weather this weekend!

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 8/30/2008 4:36:45 AM   
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Well, two more flights between rain today. I leaned out the bottom end with good results. I have not yet leaned out the top. Still on 32:1 with the XOAR 23A and its impressive with this 15Lb airframe. It's not excellent but impressive. Comments came in pretty much non stop, nice quiet sound, good vertical etc. The 23A is turning at 6420 RPM. Tomorrow I'm going to do some thrust tests!

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 9/10/2008 7:49:45 PM   
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I have an MT 57 in an 87 inch Sukhoi. I am running a 22 x 10 3W prop. On first run, with standard silencer, it got 5500 RPM. Tommy suggested that I advance the timing, as the early motors were supplied with incorrect timing. I advanced it as much as as I could and got 6600 RPM. I have since installed an MT canister, and am now getting 6400 RPM. a 200 drop, but a lot quieter. To date the engine has had about 6 runs. Viabration is moderate, and as mentioned on this post, it is most noticable around 2500 to 3000 PRM. It will idle smoothly at 900 rpm - very nice.

The engine runs very nicely. I plan to try a 23" prop as this engine is supposed to have torque and like the bigger props.

Has anyone adjusted their timing. If so, have you measured where you are with it. I think mine is at about 35degrees. At the recomended 30 degrees, revs were at about 6000 on the above prop. I would like to advance further, but would need to make a clamp for the sensor. I did expect a little more from this engine, when comparing to other 50 cc motors. Maybe further timing advances will help.


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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 9/11/2008 4:18:04 AM   
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pauldo
You can go to 35 degrees with no problems. Check with you dealer for a replacement Hall Sensor that will give you the proper advance. He can get them from Tomy free of charge to give to customers. I have supplied them to all my customers that felt they needed them. You will get a small drop in RPM with the can but the response will be better in transision and it should not be
noticed in the air.

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RE: How are all you MT57 users making out? - 9/11/2008 4:32:37 AM