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First 3D Plane??? - 8/26/2008 5:55:39 PM   
tb_tyler


 

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Status: offline 		So I have no idea where to start. My first thoughts were the Typhoon II 3D by Parkzone since I have the T-28 now, and I can use the same batteries and such(and could possibly buy a used one for less $$$ up front in case of a crashwhich will happen i'm sure!) Something tells me this isn't going to be the best 3D plane though. I will be limited to outdoor flight only, so I can't have anything extremely light-weight. I think a foamy, profile type might be best (cheaper to fix too maybe???) In this case I would go ahead and buy a better radio, which I need to do anyway. Anyway, anyone have any thoughts for me?

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/27/2008 2:05:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		the typhoon 3D is a very good plane to get the feel of what a 3D plane feels like but it is not a good 3D plane so some people say
a profile foamy is light and much easier to fly and i would get one of them because they are very very cheap to put together and easy to repair but any wind at all will blow it away
get a spectrum dx7 transmitter i love mine it is awsum

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/28/2008 6:55:34 PM   
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The typhoon II 3D is one of the better airframes I have flown in the past year. It is more stable than the Katana MD at $180.00 or AJ Extra for the same price. Although foam, its well made, airfoil wing, rigid fuse and a lot tougher than the typical foamy. At $67.00 its a steal, quick buildilng. I am impressed and will have another. IMHO, the mini-funtanna was a rip off-junk. ENJOY

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/28/2008 11:18:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hello tb Tyler! If you are new to 3D I would suggest an EPP plane, such as the HobbyLobby Super Zoom. EPP is very durable, and will withstand much more abuse than say , a Depron foamy, or a balsa plane. I've had an Mscomposit Boom since Feb. and I fly fairly frequently, and crash often. It seems like I just can't kill it! I'm surely no expert on the subject, but if you search around on different EPP planes in this forum, you should find a vast number of folks that recommend EPP for first 3D planes. Happy hunting, and I hope you find something you like! Peace!
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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/29/2008 8:25:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, if you want a plane that will teach you 3D, as well as be able to handle winds ranging from 0mph to 20mph, then get a DW Foamies 38" Yak 54. DW has a combo right now for $110, which includes servos that are known to have NEVER stripped, a powerful brushless outrunner, and a 20 amp BL ESC. With a thunder power 1320 mah 3 cell, the plane excells with the combo pack.Servos aren't as fast as some futaba or jr's, but they have plenty of torque, and have not been known to strip.

I have a garage full of DW foamies, and love them. My personaly favorite is the Yak 54, which will do hard core 3D, as well as be a basic aerobat. I'm using the servos that are includd with the combo pack, an Eflite park 400, a Jeti 30 amp controller, and a thunder power 3 cell 1320 mah lipo. flight times are about 13-15 minutes depending on throttle use.

www.dwfoamies.com

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/29/2008 8:32:03 PM   
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Status: online 		look into a cr-1 foamie that was the first plane i was able to 3d . very easy and forgiving plane

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/30/2008 2:17:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll second the Charger R/C CR-1. I like it so much, I'm on my 4th one!




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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/30/2008 3:00:46 AM   
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Status: online 		A friend and local E flyer has had a typhoon for over a year now. It's his main airplane and his first succesful flying plane. It has suffered some tremendous crashes and still flies like new! However, for learning 3D nothing compares to the Charger foamies ability to fly so dang slow and precise. The learning curve will be much faster with a foamy. A little over a year ago I went to a 3D event and saw the top flyers having a ball with their Charger CR1's and 2's. I had no clue what 3D was about till then. Now I can rolling circle the CR1 or 2 in my back yard where there's about 40 feet of room. The secret is in the extra wide body of the Charger's. They do not drop when laid on their side. Which makes it a very easy way to get the hang of the tricky 3D stuff. All the foamy practice has helped a bunch towards doing the same with my large gas planes.
It will take much longer to learn 3D with the Typhoon because it needs to carry much more speed through manouvers. But if you can afford it, a couple foamy kits and a Typhoon to apply what you have learned too, would be a good way to go.

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/30/2008 5:53:55 PM   
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A friend and local E flyer has had a typhoon for over a year now. It's his main airplane and his first succesful flying plane. It has suffered some tremendous crashes and still flies like new! However, for learning 3D nothing compares to the Charger foamies ability to fly so dang slow and precise. The learning curve will be much faster with a foamy. A little over a year ago I went to a 3D event and saw the top flyers having a ball with their Charger CR1's and 2's. I had no clue what 3D was about till then. Now I can rolling circle the CR1 or 2 in my back yard where there's about 40 feet of room. The secret is in the extra wide body of the Charger's. They do not drop when laid on their side. Which makes it a very easy way to get the hang of the tricky 3D stuff. All the foamy practice has helped a bunch towards doing the same with my large gas planes.
It will take much longer to learn 3D with the Typhoon because it needs to carry much more speed through manouvers. But if you can afford it, a couple foamy kits and a Typhoon to apply what you have learned too, would be a good way to go.


I agree with this 100%. I started out in 3D with a RC-Factory Flash and was having a heck of a time trying to learn to harrier and hover. I flew it for about 2 months, thinking I was never going to learn 3D. Then I bought, built and flew a Charger R/C CR-1. Wow, what a difference! I finally started to make progress on learning some 3D. I've been flying the CR-1 for about 9 months now and, as I said, I'm on my fourth one. Every couple of months I would go back and run a few batteries through my Flash and think "this thing sucks" and put it back on the shelf. I was seriously thinking of stripping the gear out of it and throwing it away. But then, a couple of months ago, I took it down and flew it again and changed my opinion. I kind of dig it now - it really does knife-edge well and I can now easily harrier and hover it. I think I just had to get my flying skills up to a point where I could appreciate it and the CR-1 helped me do that.


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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 8/31/2008 5:49:39 PM   
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I've just been learning with the planes for only about two months, and coming from the heli's. I started with a Aerobird Challenger, put about 10 flights on her (Have 2 now), and then for my first 'real' plane I went with the Typhoon 2 3-D. I know really nothing of what other planes offer, but I can tell ya I love the Typhoon, and its been fun so far.... I've only put three flights on it so far, and surprised how durable it is, while it takes the hits from my rough landings as I learn about these things...Lol..

Just the other day I put up my third flight on You-Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BVyhtEJ0rc

My maiden from a few days ago http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ZNyz_E7UI


I hope this can help give ya an idea coming from someone from no experience with the planks.... The maiden vid is all stock, while the other one I swapped out the E-Flite 25a esc and exchanged it with a Castle Creations 45a esc. The Batt and esc now run much cooler with only a 4 gram increase in weight from the swap... This thing is quite a blast, with plenty of power for vertical climbs.

Have a good one,


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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 9/2/2008 2:11:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for all the comments guys. It looks like I should get both! LOL So lets say I want to get a full setup for the CR-1. Can anyone recommend servos, motor, esc, prop???

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 9/2/2008 2:27:08 AM   
TBPlayer


 

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Status: offline 		This is what I use for my CR-1:

Scorpion 2215-18 motor
APC 10x4.7SF prop
Dynam 25 amp ESC
Hitec HS-55 servos (4)
Thunder Power Prolite 3s1p 1320mah lithium polymer battery.

The motor and ESC I bought at Neoplanes. The servos and battery I bought at my LHS.

In my opinion, this is the perfect setup for this plane and will result in an AUW of right around 15 oz.

I've also used a Scorpion 2212-22 motor with great results (same prop) and, it's a little lighter than the 2215-18.


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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 9/2/2008 4:27:58 AM   
altavillan


 

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http://www.chargerrc.com/default.asp <-buy everything from Charger... or
oops too late DW's http://www.shop.depronwest.com/main.sc sale is over or I'd tell you to get one of their specials and put all the electronics in a Charger kit first.
So it looks like it's make an order from Charger.

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RE: First 3D Plane??? - 9/12/2008 4:29:57 AM   
lilbanchee