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What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 3:56:01 PM

Bob Mitchell

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The question was never answered, and that thread has strayed to the point where it's probably hopeless. I've been looking for a position description for EVP and the closest thing I can find is from the membership manual, thanks to another poster who gave us the reference.

This is from the AMA Membership Manual, page 21, section 4:

"The Exeutive Vice President shall be the Chief Financial Officer of the AMA, shall monitor the financial and corporate affairs of the AMA, make an annual report to the membership regarding the financial affairs of the AMA; and shall make periodic reports, not less than quarterly, to the Executive Council regarding financial matters of the AMA, and shall assume the duties of the President in the event of a vacacy as described in Section 2 until such vacancy is filled."

The only other reference I could find regarding specific duties is in the "Standing Rules" section of the manual and deals with the nominating committee:

"Composition of the Committee:
(a) All eleven Vice Presidents and the Executive Vice President are to sit on the Nominating Committee and will constitute the Committee in total. (Legal counsel may attend and should be consulted if a nomination is to be witheld from the ballot.)"

The highlighting is their's not mine.

It's my understanding that there will now be an appointed CFO, not responsible to the EVP. If this is the case, (and if someone who really knows would clarify, that would be a good thing), then it seems to me that the EVP doesn't really have much to do. I'm just looking for clarification of structure here, not whether the move was good or bad..........that's a separate thread.

So, back to the original question: What exactly DOES the EVP do (as currently structured)?

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 4:38:22 PM

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Bob:

If it's that important to you to know exactly what the EVP positiion entails, you are wasting your time here in these forums trying to get an answer. Nobody here has a clue - otherwise it would have been answered long ago. Why not go to the horses mouth, so to speak. Send an E-mail to Dave Mathewson, President of AMA. He knows the answer, and I am sure he will give you the correct answer. Or - pick up the phone and give him a call. I know he will talk to you. Then when you find out, you can post the answer here if you so desire.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 5:29:58 PM

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Bob
another possible source of what the EVP does, once the posistion is split from the financial stuff,
would be those that campaigned here to create said new positions & duty allotments.
Perhaps they have some local insight as to exactly what they wanted folks(L-guys) to vote for.

I'm just listing a posible location of the info you asked for, to help you find it.

edit: I did it again, I just cant stop thinking the L-numbers mean Leader, rather than Lifer

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 5:36:34 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Messer

Bob:

If it's that important to you to know exactly what the EVP positiion entails, you are wasting your time here in these forums trying to get an answer. Nobody here has a clue - otherwise it would have been answered long ago. Why not go to the horses mouth, so to speak. Send an E-mail to Dave Mathewson, President of AMA. He knows the answer, and I am sure he will give you the correct answer. Or - pick up the phone and give him a call. I know he will talk to you. Then when you find out, you can post the answer here if you so desire.

Done. I'll post whatever reply I get.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 5:37:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim Messer
If it's that important to you to know exactly what the EVP positiion entails, you are wasting your time here in these forums trying to get an answer. Nobody here has a clue - otherwise it would have been answered long ago. Why not go to the horses mouth, so to speak. Send an E-mail to Dave Mathewson, President of AMA. He knows the answer, and I am sure he will give you the correct answer. Or - pick up the phone and give him a call. I know he will talk to you. Then when you find out, you can post the answer here if you so desire.

Calling or emailing DM is a terrific idea, that system always works quite well.

However what is really interesting is that one of candidates campaigning for that role himself can't answer such a question and he's right here in the forum on an hourly basis. You would think that although Hoss won't take the time to answer most of the questions asked upon him for his own reasoning, at least he could tell us what his job will entail and answer at least, at the very least, answer 1 single direct question with a direct answer. Afterall these are only some of the things he's been upset about the AMA's current leadership e.g. their lack of communication with the membership.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 6:01:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Bob Mitchell

So, back to the original question: What exactly DOES the EVP do (as currently structured)?

The EVP's duties are few. Basically assist the Prez as needed. The EVP will have some latitude to insure the AMA is run efficiently. What the EVP does depends more on the person elected EVP than prescribed duties. So, essentially the position is infinitely variable.

A good EVP might desire to reduce expenses by taking the initiative to monitor the caller ID at HQ. It would be a valuable service to reconcile the caller’s phone number with their AMA number before allowing info out....of course, occasionally the caller will need to give their zip code as well, for an extra level of security but that would solely be at the discretion of the EVP.

Just think of all the money we could save by not wasting time on non-AMA members BS questions.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 6:15:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: littlecrankshaf

A good EVP might desire to reduce expenses by taking the initiative to monitor the caller ID at HQ. It would be a valuable service to reconcile the caller’s phone number with their AMA number before allowing info out....of course, occasionally the caller will need to give their zip code as well, for an extra level of security but that would solely be at the discretion of the EVP.

Just think of all the money we could save by not wasting time on non-AMA members BS questions.

I know this is a sore point for you and some others, but I'd really rather not have this thread deteriorate as the other one did.

Thanks,

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 8:51:56 PM

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It's not to hard to find and accessable for a non member:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/organization/ec/0408ecmotions.aspx

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 9:32:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: woopie

It's not to hard to find and accessable for a non member:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/organization/ec/0408ecmotions.aspx

Section 4 to read: “The Executive Vice President is an Officer of the AMA, and will perform such duties and responsibilities as may be assigned by the President or the Executive Council of the AMA. The Executive Vice President shall assume the duties of the President in the event a vacancy as described in Section 2, until such vacancy is filled, and when so acting shall have all the powers of, and be subject to all of the restrictions upon the President.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 9:44:13 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: woopie

It's not to hard to find and accessable for a non member:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/membership/organization/ec/0408ecmotions.aspx

Thanks for the link, and thanks to Red for posting the quote from the minutes. I didn't go back far enough.

So it looks like it's basically "undefined" and allows the President and EC to assign or not assign any duties as they see fit.

That could become very interesting.

Edit typo

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/27/2008 11:57:23 PM

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Done. I'll post whatever reply I get.

I've gotten two emails from President Mathewson this afternoon. The first with the informtion I'm posting below and a comment that it should be on the AMA website before the close of business today.

The second confriming that the information had been posted. Nice

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Executive Vice President
Class:
• An AMA Executive Officer ranking immediately below the President and a voting member of the Executive Council.
• Voluntary position with AMA budget for travel and business expenses.
• Elected by mail ballot of Leader and Open members to a three-year term.
• Reports directly to and receives direction from the AMA President and Executive Council.

Summary:
• Primary responsibilities include working closely with the President, Executive Council and Executive Director to support the mission and vision of the AMA.
• Shall assume the duties of the AMA President upon the death, incapacity, inactivity, resignation, impeachment or removal of the AMA President.
• May assume some of the ceremonial duties of the AMA President, such as attending functions and events when the President is unable to attend.

Responsibility:
• Responsible for working with the President, Executive Council and the Executive Director to identify strategic issues and goals; and develop plans and methods to achieve goals and objectives.
• Assist in coordinating programs, events, projects and activities to ensure timely, proper, and efficient completion.
• Monitor and evaluate programs and advise when it is necessary to deviate and update programs and plans to reflect a new direction.

Essential Functions:
• Attend and participate in Executive Council meetings.
• Conduct Executive Council meetings in the President’s absence.
• Develop productive relationships with AMA staff and department heads.
• Develop positive relationships with external organizations that impact on the AMA.
• Work toward providing additional value, services, and satisfaction for AMA members and clubs.
• Serve on or chair any AMA committees as assigned.
• Perform other duties and responsibilities as assigned by the President or Executive Council.

Credentials and Experience:
As per ARTICLE IX “Nominations and Elections” Sections 1-6:
• To be eligible to discharge the duties of AMA Executive Vice President, the nominee must be a Leader Member of the AMA, and must previously have served as a member of the Executive Council or as Associate Vice President or as a Contest Board member for at least one year.
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So............there you have it.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/28/2008 12:04:46 AM

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And now that we have the job description we have to ask ourselves how well either candidate can function effectively in the position.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/28/2008 12:07:49 AM

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And now that we have the job description we have to ask ourselves how well either candidate can function effectively in the position.

Yes, exactly.

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RE: What Does An EVP Do Exactly (#2) - 8/28/2008 12:16:10 AM

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