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STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 8/31/2008 7:53:46 AM   
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After flying my CX2 indoors for a total of 1 hour after taking it out of the box, I've already broken 1 of the lower blades by running it into a wall. I want to get stronger blades. I've heard people talk about aluminum blades, but after a long search on the net, I came up with nothing. Can someone point me in the direction of a website that sells these aluminum blades, and if they don't exist, at least STRONGER blades than the stock ones.
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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 8/31/2008 9:59:34 AM   
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I have never heard of Aluminum blades.... and that would be way too dangerous... you want something that will give and break on contact.... always think of yourself and the others around you safety first!

Now there are some carbon fiber and other upgraded blades available at krhobbies.com or also at boomtown hobbies just search google for blade cx2 upgrades... you will find a ton of parts.... also you should check out the heli-wiki that RCU's own SoloBoss wrote for the CX2 I found it very helpful in learning my new helicopter.....

http://www.heli-wiki.com/mediawiki/index.php/HOWTO_Wiki_Overall_CX_and_CX2_Setup

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 8/31/2008 7:57:12 PM   
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I'm a big fan of the Xtreme upgrades. You have to get the CNC blade grips to run the blades but the upgrades will pay for themselves in no time. The Xtreme plastic blades will take alot more abuse than the stockers and as a bonus have more lift! Check US Hobby Supplies, KR Hobbies, Boom Town Hobbies, Rotor Tech RC Heli Supply, and even good old Ebay just to name a few.

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 8/31/2008 8:58:30 PM   
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Think about what you just asked. Most houses / apartments today are built using drywall. If you had aluminum blades, you'd have a repair to make to the wall. And you would have to repair / replace the outer shaft because it would be bent. You would likely have shelled at least one tooth off of the upper drive gear (that drives the outer shaft). You would probably have sprung the flybar. Most likely you would also be asking about CNC swashplate assemblies too.

Sorry for sounding like a smarta$$, but those $$ do ring up in a hurry! I used to be of the same thought as you- IF I COULD JUST QUIT BREAKING BLADES!!. Then it was pointed out to me that a blade costs a buck. It is the first line of defense that the helicopter sees when it hits something. You really do want the most easily broken part to be easy and cheap to change. And you want that part to be sacrificed to protect the more expensive components within the helicopter drive. That is true with fixed pitch single rotor helicopters. That is also true for far more costly Collective Pitch helicopters.

There are a several blades out there - including wooden blades! You can contact Dave (Choppersrule on this forum for wooden blades) I think he has a set.

You'll find that frequently Stump3r and I disagree on the correct path to happiness with helicopters. I went with many Xtreme upgrades - motors, Lipo pack, grips, blades, body (killer body kit!!). When I got done the CX was a real piece of work. I did not use the alloy swash or lower head since those caused me no problems. Anyhow, the sound was really neat. The blades were died black and looked just killer. And, with the grips allowing the blades to swing when they struck something, the CX was far more durable than stock. But for whatever reason, I just didn't like the way it flew. Stump3r went the full Xtreme upgrade route (except the body/chassis change) and he really liked the way his flew. If we didn't live 3000 miles apart we could have gotten together and compared notes to determine why the big difference, but that never happened. His CX2 lives happily with the full CNC upgrade set. My CX is happy back in the nearly stock configuration. Go figure.

Anyhow, since you are getting started in this hobby, I'm sure you will be back with a question about CNC upgrades. A CX2 with the full CNC upgrade set will weigh almost exactly what the stock CX2 weighs. The flight characteristics will be different with the CNC bits, but whether that's good or bad depends on the flier. The CNC upgrades will not make an outdoor helicopter of the CX2. The CNC parts are certainly more costly - and they are just as certainly more durable. And they look really cool. It's your helicopter. It's your budget. I suggest you learn to fly the CX2 in nearly stock configuration. Learn to fly it well enough that you can determine if a new part is a better flying part or just way cool. Most important is that you have a good time and keep the forum up to date as you progress! We all love a good story, we have all done really stupid things, we have all destroyed nearly every part of a CX. One of our illustrious CX2 builders was assembling his 3rd custom bird and mistook the LUBRICANT bottle for the CA ADHESIVE bottle and built a gorgeous static display model. Like I said, the only thing we are missing is the T-Shirt.

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 8/31/2008 10:27:26 PM   
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A CX2 with the full CNC upgrade set will weigh almost exactly what the stock CX2 weighs.


Are you sure about that ?! I'am thinking aluminum weighs more than plastic ? Lol... Maybe I'am confused...

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 12:45:46 AM   
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The plastic blades are cheap, buy a couple of packs of upper and lower blades and learn to fly without hitting the walls.
If you make the blades stronger something else will break instead. You can't crash a heli without breaking something, be glad it is the cheap plastic blades that are easy to replace.

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 1:20:32 AM   
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Yep, J-Michael - somewhere around here I have the evidence. Was it Goldslinger who did the weight analysis? It was over a year ago. Anyhow, yes aluminum, by volume, is heavier than plastic, but the aluminum sections are frequently thinner than plastic. One of the guys had the whole CNC deal on his and I could hardly believe that he was still at stock weight. I do remember being set straight when I accused the full CNC bling monster of being pudgy. Seems it isn't so.

My Falcon has a 900 mah lipo pack and super skids and wooden blades and it's still right at stock weight. I guess that's why we use scales rather than good guesses.
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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 1:51:27 AM   
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Solo ~

Yeah it was either Gary or Ray (Wolfpackin) last year that did the weights from plastic and also compared the weights from Micro-heli and E-Flites... I could swear they were heavier, but I also didn't want to second guess ya either ! I have much bling including a aluminum sleeve over my boom and still I'am at stock weight. But I had to lose a lot in other places to do that. One including even shaving the frame. I even had it down to 221 grams before with the aluminum but found it to light for outside flight. The 227 gram stock weight seems it would increase with the metal...

Now I'am very curious... I know Ray was the one who did the weight comparison's for the different manufacturers. So I'am thinking Gary did the one comparing stock to aluminum. My scale is only a gram scale, and not a postal scale or I would probally start disasembling some parts...Lol..

Someone out there knows. But I'am thinking there heavier... I know my Trex aluminum is heavier for sure, just should be the same for the CX2 ?

Alright, take care Mark....


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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 2:22:16 AM   
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Alright I came across some weights from a few different people including from Ray, go here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6414692/anchors_6414692/mpage_1/key_cx2%252Cweights/anchor/tm.htm#6414692

The outcome was they were heavier. I had thought so. It just made more sense to me, so I had to check.....

Have a good one,


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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 4:19:28 AM   
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Aluminum blades hmmmmm.....

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 3:11:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rchotrodz

Aluminum blades hmmmmm.....



It could be worse.......I've read of one guy who was going to make some out of copper awhile back........Now that would start getting expensive.....

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RE: STRONGER BLADES FOR BLADE CX2? - 9/1/2008 6:07:02 PM   
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I like the destructive factor of it...lol

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