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What to get - 9/1/2008 1:07:16 AM   
VxlRustler


 

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Joined: 8/21/2008
From: Nassau, NY, USA
Status: offline 		I've heard good things about the Blade Cp but am hesitant. I have never flown a helicopter before but I want a helicopter where I can do the inverted flying because I don't want to buy a second heli once i figure out the first. I think i was told once that the belt has 2 modes one for inverted flying and one for regular flying. Would any one reccomend the belt? If not what would you reccomend for outdoor flying. Thanks in advance.
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RE: What to get - 9/1/2008 1:09:30 AM   
hfenn


 

Posts: 570
Joined: 1/1/2003
From: BARNWELL, SC, USA
Status: offline 		It doesn't matter. It wan't last that long anyway.

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RE: What to get - 9/1/2008 1:55:22 AM   
warpnine


 

Posts: 246
Joined: 6/11/2008
From: Reston, VA, USA
Status: offline 		Pretty much any 6 channel helicopter these days is capable of inverted 3D flight, but it will be a long, long, long time before you are ready for that if you're just starting off. The Belt CP and Honey Bee King 2 (HBK2) both are reasonably priced and have lots of replacement and nice upgrade parts from a variety of manafactures. Lot to be said for that. The Honey Bee probably requires a few more upgrades right "out of the box" (everyone needs to put on a brushless motor and new ESC fairly quickly), but the parts are probably a little cheaper than a bigger bird like the Belt - so it sort of balances out.

I've had my HBK2 for about 4 months and have replaced most of the components (blades, motor, ESC, gyro, transmitter, receiver, battery, tail servo, CF frame, CNC head and tail mechanics) on it, but each upgrade has made it easier and better to fly - and set me up better for my next helicopter too. I've learned a ton selecting, installing, and tuning these upgrades - thanks to many of the folks out here and Michael at U.S. Hobby Supply. Just about any RTF helicopter that you buy, you will want and need to upgrade somewhat over time - but you don't have to do all of these upgrades all at once. Some suppliers sell combo packages, where you can get some selected upgrades right in the initial kit - but most people seem to select and buy their upgrades individually, which I suspect gives you a better bird at the end of the day anyway (it just takes more knowledge, time, and effort).

Get a flight simulator package for your computer - I recommend the ClearView Flight Simulator ($39 shareware that is well worth it: http://rcflightsim.com/download.html ) that runs rings around the free FMS simulator that comes with the Esky flight simulator package... The Esky flight simulator is worth it for the USB controller it comes with - that works perfectly with other software packages like ClearView. Set reasonable expectations for yourself, for learning how to fly - since it is generally considered the hardest RC vehicle to learn barring none. Also look at Radd's Flight School which can save you a lot of time and money too: http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html

Suggest that you read a lot of the forum threads before you buy anything, since even though you will get a variety of opinions out here - you will get good, solid, practical advice from nearly everyone.

One last word of advice, you can't go wrong buying from Michael at U.S. Hobby Supply ( http://www.ushobbysupply.com/ ) who provides excellent service and support (my Local Hobby Store). If you have a question, drop him an e-mail and he'll always be glad to help you. Although I have never ordered anything (yet) from Rusty at Castle Rock Hobbies (partially because Michael's company is so much closer to me and has always provided me such excellent support) ( http://www.castlerockhobbies.com/ ) he also has a supurb reputation and would also be glad to help you find a helicopter or any upgrades you are looking for! These guys provide truly personal service and support - something that you won't find from the huge shipping mills, where they can just barely spell "helicopter"! We are blessed to have vendors like these guys who have such a joy in the hobby and such a willingness to help anyone!

So take your time, do a lot of research, talk to lots of people (out here), and use these trustworthy vendors when you do buy - and most of all have fun! Good luck!

Dave


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RE: What to get - 9/1/2008 1:57:08 AM   
homeunt


 

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Joined: 2/10/2008
From: Ectobicoke, ON, CANADA
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Buy Belt-CP and a lot of cheap esky parts, DO NOT UPGRADE till they crap out mechanically (meaning without crashing brand new out of box)

I was more cocky than a wasted naked guy and I ended up getting fat bill

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This hobby is funny, if I got cash, I got no experience.
If i got experience, I see a giant hole on my wallet.

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RE: What to get - 9/1/2008 2:38:10 AM   
kianhon


 

Posts: 184
Joined: 4/12/2008
From: Kalamazoo, MI, USA
Status: online 		If you don't have any experience before with CCPM heli, then it will take you Years of Frequent flying to do 3D. Lets assume you really stick to your word of only owning this Heli from learning to hover to hardcore 3D (we are looking at years of flying experience), then YES, Belt-CP is capable of doing 3D, cheap repair cost. Flight performance may not be as good as those expensive heli, but for the price you pay it is a good heli.

Honey Bee King 2 is good but Belt-CP is better for outdoor flying simply because it is bigger thus more stable when comes to windy condition, expecially you bring it far high up. Both repair cost are are low.

All 3D capable heli have 2 modes, one is normal flying, another is for 3D. Just a flip of one switch on your transmitter to change between.

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RE: What to get - 9/1/2008 6:31:41 PM   
Empty Wallet


 

Posts: 269
Joined: 1/2/2008
From: Hackettstown, NJ, USA
Status: offline 		Sounds like your about to make the same mistake I did.
I started out with an Eagle 50 3D bird because I didn't want to buy a second heli either.
As it turned out, it cost me so much more to fix the Eagle from all the crashes (you WILL crash) that I could have bought TWO trainers and the Eagle to begin with.
In the end, I bought a Honey Bee FP (I call it the flying tank. It can take a beating and keep on flying) and learned to fly with that.
By the time I could fly well enough to make crashing a rare occurance, the Eagle was just to beat up to fix anymore.
Heli #3 was a Belt CP.
On its 2nd flight the ESC caught fire and crashed in a flaming wreck.
Heli #4 a Trex knock off which finally is working out very very well.

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