In the spirit (if not the skill of ) Streetsquid’s work and posting, I have attempted the weathering of my Pershing. I have highlighted, chipped and dirtied all my hard work on my beloved WWII M26….
And I LOVE IT!
I know it is not very well done, and I know far more on how to than I did when I start and could do better now than when I started, but I think it looks freaking kewl! Thank you so much for your step-by-step Streetsquid, it allowed me to attempt what you make look so easy and sooooo realistic. My Panzer IV will be better than this, but I think this will still be my favorite customizing job.
What I’ve learned: 1. Wash the body after painting before putting on the watercolor highlight paint. Some paint like the one I used (Model Master) tends to bead water, making it difficult to spread out smoothly. 2. Go slow, and always use a smaller brush than you have. Nothing worse than blobbing paint when you wanted a fine touch. Better too dry of a paintbrush than too wet. 3. Turn the darn ceiling fan off before doing any paint. Even on low, the paint dries far too fast otherwise. 4. Play some music in the background. It relaxes you, and you want to be loose and free for most of this. 5. Don’t try to show your wife what you just spent the entire evening doing. She will not understand why you are doing such detail, and she will think you foolish for “wasting” the evening. 6. Don’t sweat minor imperfections. You can always strap a box or tarp over it, or spray more dirt there! ;o) It’s a tank, and they didn’t have showroom paintjobs! 7. Post pics on this forum and do it often! More than once I was told of a detail or mistake several times, allowing me to do a better job and before having to redo the entire tank. Besides, pics rock, and everyone loves seeing them.
So, I am posting a series of pics for your perusal before I shoot my sealing dullcoat. Before anyone asks what I used to texture my rusted cast iron exhaust, I used rust! I have a metal shelf in my shop, so I took a razor blade and scraped. I mixed up a color that looked the right color,then dumped the rust powder in and stirred. In person it looks very authentic for rusted cast, but a bit too shiny. Also, some of the paint I mixed for my chips were gloss resulting in shiny chips. I’ll get rid of that with brushing on some dullcoat, then sealing the entire tank with an aerosol dullcoat spray.
So, anyone have any suggestions on my tank before I finish it?
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Great job, I started today weathering my pershing and I did the same as you and followed Craig's ( streetsquids ) advice. I just didnt go as heavy on the filter as you have but I think after looking at your pershing I might what colors did you use? I had a mix of yewllow ochre and burnt umber and later Im going to go take a paynes gray and raw umber for the grills. And then a pin wash to bring out the highlights?
Looks great though, Hows the weaher today in the "Peg"
I just mixed until I had what I wanted....I used Testors model paints (got a ton of them from when I was a kid) with the brush, and I used my airbrush for the dirt and the olive drab. And I did the highlights by brush, but used my Dad's water base paints from his model railroading days.
It was 18C and sunny in Winnipeg this afternoon, but turned to crap around 4 and now it is cold (11C) and raining.... I'd like to know where our 32C went from last week!
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commin' along nicely. You need a white star on the turret top between the TC and loader's hatch and just behind the lifting eye...point facing rear as on the bow. Don't be concerned about coloration of the grill doors, as all you need is a bit of dirt, scuffing and mud from boots. No great amount of heat came out there and no exhaust...those are intake greiils. Exhaust looks good...I prefer Rust-all over rustpaint, but you have a good mix and it looks good. Don't go overboard on the black...it's not a diesel, so the exhaust is more grey than black. You may want to drill out the TC vision blocks and fill in with Window Glazing (MicroMart). Nice stuff...just put a big drop on the side of a hole and drag it across....when it dries, it looks like glass. and lots better than painted plastic.
Pershing is looking good. (Don't mind the gun travel lock on the photo...that's my M-26A1.)
justed noted yours is a Marine tank ....markings (outside of stars) should be pale yellow.
Not according to the walk-around I used....besides, I may do it again in a year or so once I'm better at it. But I found more than one Marine M26 that was all white graphics, and went with this (pretty common) walk-around of this particular tank. I like it. Of course, this is the problem I had thruout- the accurate pics are in black and white, the color pics are museum restores (right or wrong). Besides, I saw some of the yellow Marine lettering you are talking about and I don't like the color- it just doesn't look "right"! Oh, and some of the Marine paint jobs I saw pics of did not have the star on the top of the turret and I could not find a top pic of this particular tank I modelled after, so I didn't do it. I may add it still, I don't know.
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Strange, USMC regs in that era require yellow markings, but then too, many museums are off base on a lot of things....like putting Tiger markings on Pershings, hatch interriors white etc. Many cases, they just don't know, or in the case of my former museum curator, put stuff on because "it looks nice", regardless if it's correct or not. Reason I no longer work there. The star on top was pretty much SOP for aircraft recognition and IAW Geneva Convention requirements,, but since this is a museum display...
Fair enuf. Since you know a ton of this info firsthand, I'll see about that star. But I'm going to keep the white lettering- too hard to redo (was too hard to do also- next time I'm using decals!). Thanks for the input.
Is the star like this pic?
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Strange, USMC regs in that era require yellow markings, but then too, many museums are off base on a lot of things....like putting Tiger markings on Pershings, hatch interriors white etc. Many cases, they just don't know, or in the case of my former museum curator, put stuff on because "it looks nice", regardless if it's correct or not. Reason I no longer work there. The star on top was pretty much SOP for aircraft recognition and IAW Geneva Convention requirements,, but since this is a museum display...
You quit because of that?
Someday, when you own your museum you'll understand why ... they're the boss apple sauce.
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I can underastand why Pattoncommander would leave such a job. He was hired to assist with restoring pieces of history- not for making rides at an amusement park. "If a job is worth doing, it is worth doing right!"..... If a museum curator is more interested in putting innacurate "junk" onto a vintage tank, what's to stop them from painting the tank paisley, or hot pink? That might look "cool".... Besides, the purpose of a museum is to freeze a piece of history the way it was so future generations can realize just what was done and lost and won in "the good old days"..... "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". Maybe accurate renditions of these war machines may impress just how bad war can be into the mind of the next US President or PM of England.
For someone who knows how the tank should look, being told to do something that was just wrong and innacurate just to placate a paper-pushing manager would be like drinking battery acid! I don't blame Pattoncommander one bit. It's a matter of personal integrity. Hard decision though...giving up working on those restorations..... I wouldn't mind the barked knuckles and scraped arms working on one, and I'd even bring my own penetrating oil just for the chance. Of course, I'd have to email Pattoncommander 10 times a day to check on just how everything should be done it the tank!
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RE: HL Pershing- update on customizing - 
what colors did you use? I had a mix of yewllow ochre and burnt umber and later Im going to go take a paynes gray and raw umber for the grills. And then a pin wash to bring out the highlights? 
....markings (outside of stars) should be pale yellow.
Oh, and some of the Marine paint jobs I saw pics of did not have the star on the top of the turret and I could not find a top pic of this particular tank I modelled after, so I didn't do it. I may add it still, I don't know.
Many cases, they just don't know, or in the case of my former museum curator, put stuff on because "it looks nice", regardless if it's correct or not. Reason I no longer work there. 
The star on top was pretty much SOP for aircraft recognition and IAW Geneva Convention requirements,, but since this is a museum display... 
RE: HL Pershing- update on customizing - 
He was hired to assist with restoring pieces of history- not for making rides at an amusement park. "If a job is worth doing, it is worth doing right!"..... If a museum curator is more interested in putting innacurate "junk" onto a vintage 
Besides, the purpose of a museum is to freeze a piece of history the way it was so future generations can realize just what was done and lost and won in "the good old days"..... "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it". Maybe accurate renditions of these war machines may impress just how bad war can be into the mind of the next US President or PM of England. 
