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Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 9:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good morning guys,

I would like to know if a model of Churchill would interest you ? A friend of mine is building his (as the Crocodile version) and he plans to put it in production. To help him knowing how many he could build, I am posting here to ask you how many of you would buy one ?

There would be three versions :

- Built model with HL stuff inside (price range : 500 to 600 euro)
- Built model with wheels/suspensions without sprockets, idlers and electronics ( about 350 euro)
- Built hull only (about 200 euro)

The prices are subject to change as they are just approximation for you.

Here are few photos of the beast :









Cheers.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 10:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Your friend had better set up a production line. I can guarantee that there is gonna be a massive interest in this tank.
Any pics of a completed model?

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 10:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		these photos are the lastest ones of the model (prototype I'd say...in fact it is his own model, testing his building technics to get the best results and to ease the production)
I'll keep you informed.
The goal of this thread is to know the possible interest. More infos will of course follow if the feedback is good.

FYI his next model will be a Cromwell.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 10:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow, i would save have one in the future!

thanks, this is gonna be a winner!

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 11:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		Put me down for one, VERY interested in this!

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 11:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		btw do you know what tracks he would use for it? or will he mould his own?

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 11:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the moment he plans to use HL tracks (I am already seeing some of you jumping from your seat ). Moulding would be a possibility too. I'd love to see accurate tracks.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 12:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi.
Happy to join your comunity. I don't see where I can present myself. I'm an elefant friend. How you can see I try to built the churchill. Thank you for the interest. Hope you enjoy it. If you have any questions !
I will try to present us all my models as soon as possible.
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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 12:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Flamme

Great work on the Churchill I will buy one when you put them into production

BTW welcome to the forum looking forward to seeing more off your work

Cheers Ian

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 12:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		hello flamme,

first and foremost, welcome aboard!
the churchill that you have built in the photo looks brilliant, good to have british armour as lots of us have been longing for it!
thankyou for introducing a british tank to the current lot!

oh and about the tracks, which tank are they goig to be from? a panzer?

thanks,

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 12:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Very nice work. I'd be interested, but it's still a bit pricy....OK I admire and understand the vast amount of work involved, especially for the Croc, but I'd have to wait 'til the cost came down a bit. Cromwell sounds very interesting.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 12:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		but pattoncommander if you put in the electronics yourself then it costs alot less?

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 1:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its still VERY pricey...

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 2:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for answers. I'm very proud to participate our forum. I will try to explain me in english as well as possible.
To make easy I use to install tiger tracks, because all of us can buy if there are broken.
An other solution : the metal panther tracks due to the dimensions, but the churchill need a more longer track, so it will cost more money.
The churchill advantage is that the tracks are hide.
Into the future I will try to mould to make it more real.
But if someone is able to realise a real track, may be we will make a deal. Why not?
If I propose the churchill without mechanics and electronics, is that everybody can take is HL model to equipate himself.
Others preferes put tiger metal tracks. So for me it's difficult to choose one or another solution.
That why i propose the empty churchill for those who are able to create the wheels/suspensions.
Hope you can help me.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 2:04 PM   
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Its still VERY pricey...


it'd be pricy if a company like HL that mass produces asked this range of prices...but thats no HL. Completely handmade, small production...
Like Einstein said, it's all relative
Write that you would not spend that for a handmade Churchill ok but please do not write it is VERY pricy.



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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 2:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure, a Churchill is wanted but yeah, $800+ USD (or $1000+ AUD) is a lot for something with HL guts and tracks... just being honest here.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 2:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		This work took me more than 30 days working after my work and is not ended. If ou are not interested by HL mechanics, I prefere because I don't need to BUY it for you, so it's less expensive. You can put inside what you want even tamiya electronics.
If the EURO change it's more expensive for you , is not my fault

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Welcome Flamme Love the Churchill I think you have done a realy nice tank there would love to have one if you sold just the hull with drawings for suspension I would buy one .was thinking of trying to do one myself after visting Normandie in august .


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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a great looking tank and i can see alot of time and effort has gone into it, but i do have to agree it does seem pricey, if i was going to spend that sort of money i would want much better electronics than HengLong.

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:26 PM   
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Hi.
Happy to join your comunity. I don't see where I can present myself. I'm an elefant friend. How you can see I try to built the churchill. Thank you for the interest. Hope you enjoy it. If you have any questions !
I will try to present us all my models as soon as possible.
best regards


Hello! Thank you so much for sharing your awesome work! A Churchill would be a great tank for everyones collection. Please don't be offended by the remarks about the projected costs of your fine work, this just isn't the place to get too many possible comments because most people here don't have deep pockets or recognize that not all tanks are as cheap in price as a Heng Long.

Those RTR's have pretty much spoiled the market.

I would welcome you to show off your work here http://rctankhq.com/THQ/ where you'll get more positive remarks and encouragement.

Jeff

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		In this world, there is a simple concept.
You want something, then look if it is available
It is available, then buy it if you have the money.

I do not think this is the place for a debate of this kind : pricy or not pricy, cheap or not cheap, fair or not fair.
The debate is much simpler, you'd buy one or not.

All over the forums, people are crying that they want a new model to be released that is different from the too-much-known Tigers, an opponent for their panzer...Etc...And when an artisan decides to spend his time and energy to release something original, I read people whining...
I do not throw away the freedom of speech...everyone is free to write what they want....but sorry, I keep the right to be surprised (and disappointed)

Guys...you already want Flamme to give up ??

My 2 cents (of euro)

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Jeff, I was composing my reply while you were posting...
We said the same thing in a different way indeed

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 3:44 PM   
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In this world, there is a simple concept.
You want something, then look if it is available
It is available, then buy it if you have the money.

I do not think this is the place for a debate of this kind : pricy or not pricy, cheap or not cheap, fair or not fair.
The debate is much simpler, you'd buy one or not.

All over the forums, people are crying that they want a new model to be released that is different from the too-much-known Tigers, an opponent for their panzer...Etc...And when an artisan decides to spend his time and energy to release something original, I read people whining...
I do not throw away the freedom of speech...everyone is free to write what they want....but sorry, I keep the right to be surprised (and disappointed)

Guys...you already want Flamme to give up ??

My 2 cents (of euro)



You are correct!

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 4:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Flamme, welcome to the forum.

First, great job on the Churchill. Very nice detail, and it looks like a lot of long nights have gone into it.

Second, it is a case of supply and demand. If you build the only 1/16 scale Churchill on the market, you will have people who will pay an extrordinary amount for it. However; the lower the cost, the more that will sell. I do not see anything wrong with your price, especially considering the amount of effort, then the cost of start up you are investing. If Franklin Mint can sell a diecast car for $200 that is only worth $75 at the most, in comparison you have a very low and reasonable price.

Third, I think you should finish your prototype then contact Heng Long and sell them the rights to it. They can plug out a ton of them at their usual low price (far lower than you could ever hope to sell at), you make a nice chunk of money for the rights, and even have the satisfaction of adding a desirable and unique piece of historical modelry to a lot of collectors.

Finally, I'm not interested in getting a Churchill. I just have never liked it, I like the Axis and American tanks. I don't even like the Russian tanks. Please don't hate me folks, I just have my preferences....

Fantastic job on the body so far. Even my wife likes it- she says "it's cute". I've already beaten her for that on your behalf <kidding>

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RE: Any interest in a 1/16 Churchill tank ? - 9/7/2008 4:48 PM   
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