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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/14/2008 8:44:04 PM   
Bazzahat


 

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Status: offline 		Hellooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Where''s you all gone??

Nothing on the forum making interesting reading,,,, don''t tell me your all having amazing weather and are all flying 24/7!!!

Fink they are struggling with getting workers to build some more Cessna''s, coz mine is STILL NOT HERE, and there''s no sign of a container either....

So anyone had their maiden recently, anymore glitch gossip. All my lights bar one survived the crash but still got to carefully remove them from the wing tips as they were Cyno''d in.

Got some picks of a 172 at the weekend with some video, so when that''s edited I''ll get it on-line for all to see.

Well I will now retreat in hope of sparking a flurry of interesting contributions regarding our beloved 182''s,

Hope your all well

Regards
Bazza

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/14/2008 9:06:20 PM   
ErlendM



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I haven''t had the maiden flight yet, due to some technical problems. The onboard-starter from Fema turned out to be too weak to my engine, so I decided to remove it. I then discovered that because of long fuel-tubes due to me putting a DuBro quick-fill-walve placed in the bottom of the fuselage, I got problems in priming the engine without choking the carb with my finger. This is of course not possible with the cowling on, so I had to look for an external choke-assembly. I found a couple, one for an OS120 and one for an ASP120. I have a SC180 (ASP180 is the same engine), and I bought both the choke-assemblies to see if I could use either one of them. I have to modify them a bit but I think this will do. I have also bought a Perry-pump which I will install as well to secure the fuel-flow, although I havent had any problems running the engine on the ground. Just to add extra security...
I got the last items a couple of days ago, but due to many family-affairs this month, I''m grounded until May :-)

That was a situation-report from Erlend!

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/14/2008 11:00:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Heeeey... I''m still here!:-) And so is my lovely Cessna. Had myself three lovely trips with it on saturday. Everything working as a charm. I suppose I''ve got a little of the same "problem" as Erlend with long fuel lines, but it means I have to run the onboard starter a little longer for the first run, and it gets everyone''s attention...;-)

I have programmed a mode where it runs on 100% (VERY quick) and therefore pumps the fuel quickly to the carburettor. Then I can go back to start on my "scale-speed" at around 40%. I have a brushed Jeti regulator controlling the FEMA starter engine.

It''s a shame your FEMA starter don''t do the job, Erlend! Strange since I''ve got a OS 160 engine (twin) and have LOTS of starting power to spare.... I''m running it from a 3-cell A123 battery.




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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/14/2008 11:25:52 PM   
ErlendM



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ORIGINAL: anderhau
It''''s a shame your FEMA starter don''''t do the job, Erlend! Strange since I''''ve got a OS 160 engine (twin) and have LOTS of starting power to spare.... I''''m running it from a 3-cell A123 battery.


Yes, so do I think. But I will use it on an other project - I have a 1/4-scale Cub that need some repair. I''m thinking on a 1.20 on this one, and I will try the Fema on that one.


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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/15/2008 12:53:33 AM   
JoeMamma



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Except for engine adjustments, my Cessna''s completed.

Hopefully we''ll be getting some nice weather this week. I''d like to run some fuel through that new Saito 1.8 before flying.

Joe m.


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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/17/2008 11:39:25 PM   
steve@gvmac.com


 

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Yep I'm still here as well and my cessna has had a few uneventfull flights of around 1/2 hour each with nav lights on and off
with no glitches.
The weather here in the West of Scotland has been pretty good with a few days of rain and wind but have been teaching a newcomer
to this wonderful hobby and have been at the field without the cessna.
However I have been taking my Weston UK Tigershark with me just to keep me on my toes and for that all important
adrenalin rush so that I don't get too lax while teaching with a high wing trainer model.
If the weather keeps up I will have it at the field on Sunday for a noise check as it hasn't flown at my local club field as yet but only from
a very large playing field on the coast.
Keep all the interesting stories coming though as it all makes this hobby and the cessna experience more enjoyable for all.

Regards to All from Scotland and HAPPY LANDINGS

Steve

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/17/2008 11:54:35 PM   
anderhau



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Status: offline 		Hehe.. Funny you have a Weston Tigershark... I have a Weston Magnum R to get my adrenalin kicks...:-) It's crazy!:-)

Info on my Magnum R here | Video here

One thing guys, I'm wondering if my Cessna is a bit tailheavy... could you give me a tips on where you have your CG?




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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/19/2008 8:23:05 PM   
bblizzard


 

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HAVE A QUESTION MY HANGAR 9 182 WANTS TO DIP THE PASSENGER SIDE WING FAIRLY QUICKLY WHILE FLYING, SO I TRIM IT TO AJUST 5 TO 6 CLICKS UNTIL IT FLYS LEVEL. THIS LEAVES THE AILERON ON THE PASSENGER UNEVEN AND BELOW THE BACK EDGE OF THE WING AT NEUTRAL, I DOUBLE CHECKED EVERTHING I COULD THINK OF, ELEVATORS ARE EVEN, FLAPS ARE EVEN AND CHECK ALL OTHER ALINMENTS AND COULN'T FIND A PROBLEM. FLY FINE ONCE TIRIMED, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS CAN BE RIGHT. COULD THIS BE A LATERAL BALANCE PROBLEM, MY MOTOR IS SIDE MOUNTED TO THE PASSENGER SIDE A MOKI 1.20 BIG HEAD, BUT I HAVE SIDE MOUNTED LOTS OF PLANES BEFORE WITHOUT THIS PROBLEM. HELP! I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS. PERHAPS I HAVE A HEAVY WING? JUST DON'T KNOW.

THANKS, BRAD

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 4/29/2008 8:21:46 PM   
Horn Dude


 

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Status: offline 		maybe torq of the engine causing it to turn to that side? But with such a large wingspan wouldnt think that would be the case... maybe heavy wing or has some more drag in the air on that side.... you got me on this one.

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 5/12/2008 6:21:04 PM   
ErlendM



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Status: offline 		I was going to have the maiden-flight of my Skylane yesterday. Everything was perfect - even the weather! However - I didn't manage to get enough ground-speed to make the plane take off. I tried two times, the second time I dared to deploy some flaps, but I decided to abort the takeoff-run since I felt the speed was so on the edge here.

I have a SC 1.80 4-stroke with a 3-blade Master Airscrew 16x8. It turns on 7600RPM. I didn't bring other propellers with me, but today I tested at home with a couple of other I had in my shed. Both 2-blade APC. A 16x8 swings at 8500RPM while a 18x8 swings at 7600RPM.

I would of course prefer a 3-blade, but what diameter/pitch would give me enough power?
What will the difference in power be with the 16x8 vs. the 18x8 APC?
Any advice here, guys, would be appreciated very much...
At least the plane is safe! :-)

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 5/12/2008 8:53:21 PM   
steve@gvmac.com


 

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I would be more inclined to opt for the 18 x 8 as it should give you enough ooomf to get airborn.
Remember that this is a scale model and will also benefit from a small amount of flaps to help her unstick from the runway.
I too was quite surprised at the amount of ground speed required without flaps to get mine airborn and I'm using a Zenoah 26 Petrol with a 18 x 8.
Don't panic and pull back on the throttle to slow it down as it will practically lift off itself.
Just wait until it has enough airspeed and give it a small amount of elevator and away you go.
On the 3 bladed prop, I decided to just leave it with the 2 bladed Menz wooden one as it flies great around the sky at about 1/4 throttle.
You only need full power to get it airborn and then pull back on the stick for some real scale like flying.

Best of luck with your first flight.

Regards

Steve from Scotland

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 5/22/2008 7:49:22 PM   
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Question; how many degree's would you say your nose wheel moves? 15 degree's to the left & right? and how is really required to taxi around?

thanks .........

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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 5/22/2008 9:15:33 PM   
ErlendM



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Hi ErlendM
I would be more inclined to opt for the 18 x 8 as it should give you enough ooomf to get airborn.
Remember that this is a scale model and will also benefit from a small amount of flaps to help her unstick from the runway.


I'm going for a new test this weekend, with different propellers. How much down-elevator is needed when you deploy the flaps?



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RE: Building the Hangar 9 Cessna 182 Skylane - 5/25/2008 1:23:45 AM   
orangeblue


 

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Status: offline 		Hi somebady knows where I can buy the Cessna, in horizonhobby its sold out until late July
thanks

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