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ORIGINAL: Quikturn

How about licensing the plans to smaller kit manufacturers like AK-Models in Iowa City, IA. I've met Alex personally, he gave me the tour when I picked up a kit from him in the past, he has a computerized lazer cutter and even cuts his own balsa stock. I'm sure he would be happy to have the business.

To be honest, there is probably a small market for this kit and to get a large manufacturer involved with it is a tough sell. Maybe a smaller manufacturer or kit cutter can make a small volume venture work.

Just a thought.

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ORIGINAL: Tweek

Guys...many thousands of dollars have been dumped into this project over the last few years by two players in this group. While it's nice to try and keep folks updated, it's really none of your business unless you've poured your blood and $$ into it. It' not some sort of ''right'' to be informed of the progress by this private business who is working on this item to sell. This stuff isn't cheap nor easy, so step back, take a deep breath, and let them work on this. Heckling, jabbing, making supposition, etc doesn't help nor speed things up or change the end result.

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ORIGINAL: ovationdave

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ORIGINAL: Tweek

Guys...many thousands of dollars have been dumped into this project over the last few years by two players in this group. While it's nice to try and keep folks updated, it's really none of your business unless you've poured your blood and $$ into it. It' not some sort of ''right'' to be informed of the progress by this private business who is working on this item to sell. This stuff isn't cheap nor easy, so step back, take a deep breath, and let them work on this. Heckling, jabbing, making supposition, etc doesn't help nor speed things up or change the end result.

Geeze. Whatever. This is exactlty why East R/C will NEVER get any of my business. 'Nuff said.

The people following this thread have been ULTRA PATIENT with the empty promises and visions of grandure that were promised by the same folks who broke those promises. We didn't demand anything? We were hopeful. Bottom line, don't promise what you can't deliver, then get upset when people hold you to your word. Funny, but that doesn't work with my boss either.

Just glad I bought a short kit. Which I hope is made available for those who actually like building.

Thanks for a Great Design Don......however this pans out, its still a favorite.

Dave

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ORIGINAL: Dave McDonald

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ORIGINAL: ovationdave

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ORIGINAL: Tweek

Guys...many thousands of dollars have been dumped into this project over the last few years by two players in this group. While it's nice to try and keep folks updated, it's really none of your business unless you've poured your blood and $$ into it. It' not some sort of ''right'' to be informed of the progress by this private business who is working on this item to sell. This stuff isn't cheap nor easy, so step back, take a deep breath, and let them work on this. Heckling, jabbing, making supposition, etc doesn't help nor speed things up or change the end result.

Geeze. Whatever. This is exactlty why East R/C will NEVER get any of my business. 'Nuff said.

The people following this thread have been ULTRA PATIENT with the empty promises and visions of grandure that were promised by the same folks who broke those promises. We didn't demand anything? We were hopeful. Bottom line, don't promise what you can't deliver, then get upset when people hold you to your word. Funny, but that doesn't work with my boss either.

Just glad I bought a short kit. Which I hope is made available for those who actually like building.

Thanks for a Great Design Don......however this pans out, its still a favorite.

Dave

+1

Well stated from another Dave who will also never buy anything from East RC, but is still holding out for a slim chance that Condor will eventually come through with the Flying Machine ARF.

My first and only Flying Machine was scratch built from plans I bought from Don many years ago. I still have a kit laying around, but can't build it due to CA and balsa allergies I've developed after too many years of building. That's why bringing the ARF to market is so important to me.

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ORIGINAL: ovationdave

Sorry Constrictor, I have it mostly built. I am in Mexico now for work, but when I get back I need to finish it up. I will post pics when done..... :-)

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ORIGINAL: Dave McDonald

Sorry Steve, the FM kit isn't for sale right now.

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ORIGINAL: Twin_Flyer

For those who bought the plans, how long did it take to get them and how would it be for a first time scratch build?

I have been flying for 20+ years, but have never built from plans before. Was hoping a short kit would become available...

Thanks,
Bill S.

Hey Guys,

After many months of working with the overseas manufacturer, we finally completed the project with a Flying Machine ARF ready for production.  Unfortunately, Condor decided not to continue with the investment.  Condor did assist me pursuing other investors, but at this time I have no firm commitments.   I have now acquired all rights to the Flying Machine as the contract between Condor and myself has been terminated. 

I’m just as disappointed as you are especially with all the time I have invested in getting a proto-type into production only to have no end product.  The timing was unfortunate.  If I had known this a month or so before, I could have funded the project.  It’s not a large sum of money for a business to invest in, but for a working guy it’s a large chunk of change.   I sit on the side lines reading all the comments and I am kind of disappointed in some of the ones I have read.  I agree with Dave Hockaday. Unless you have a vested interest in this project what happens as far as the private business end is no one else’s business.  I know some of you may not like what I just said, but put yourself in that same situation with your money on the line.  As a business man or in your personal life there will be events that happen that are beyond your control.  ****ing about it or negative comments does no one any good other than leaving a life time impression of what was said.  As far as a promise of a Flying Machine ARF, there have been many proto-types that I have personally flown.  My thanks go to Dave Hockaday of East R/C, Fred Culbertson of Condor and Cliff Turnbull, for without these guys investing time and money into the project it would still be just a dream. The Flying Machine ARF promise has not been broken, what has changed is the release date.   It’s in the works.

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ORIGINAL: Muddiman

Hey Guys,

 

After many months of working with the overseas manufacturer, we finally completed the project with a Flying Machine ARF ready for production.  Unfortunately, Condor decided not to continue with the investment.  Condor did assist me pursuing other investors, but at this time I have no firm commitments.   I have now acquired all rights to the Flying Machine as the contract between Condor and myself has been terminated. 

I’m just as disappointed as you are especially with all the time I have invested in getting a proto-type into production only to have no end product.  The timing was unfortunate.  If I had known this a month or so before, I could have funded the project.  It’s not a large sum of money for a business to invest in, but for a working guy it’s a large chunk of change.   I sit on the side lines reading all the comments and I am kind of disappointed in some of the ones I have read.  I agree with Dave Hockaday. Unless you have a vested interest in this project what happens as far as the private business end is no one else’s business.  I know some of you may not like what I just said, but put yourself in that same situation with your money on the line.  As a business man or in your personal life there will be events that happen that are beyond your control.  ****ing about it or negative comments does no one any good other than leaving a life time impression of what was said.  As far as a promise of a Flying Machine ARF, there have been many proto-types that I have personally flown.  My thanks go to Dave Hockaday of East R/C, Fred Culbertson of Condor and Cliff Turnbull, for without these guys investing time and money into the project it would still be just a dream. The Flying Machine ARF promise has not been broken, what has changed is the release date.   It’s in the works.

Don 

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ORIGINAL: Muddiman

Guys,

It's still in the works,  I will not give up getting this to happen.