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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/18/2002 10:11:03 AM   
mbc16


 

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Status: offline 		Ok guys found a pretty good deal with a guy at my local flying field. It consists of a me 109 ARF the .40 size one, made by modeltech I think,(it has the green and grey camo with the yellow tail) , a brand new magnum 52 4 stroke and 4 new hitec servovs (all it needs is a tx and rx) . The plane has never been flown before but the rudder needs to be recovered b/c of some hangar rash. The guy is asking $195. Do you guys think I should do it?

Also keep in mind that this will be my first scale plane ever and right now I am still working on my lucky stick. Once I become effecient with the stick would it be premature to jump to the 109 or would the stick prepare me enough?

thanks in advance

mike
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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/19/2002 1:10:33 AM   
Patrick Underwo


 

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Status: offline 		Hmm well, considering he's pretty much giving you the plane for free (I looked up the engine at tower and it's $150, that leaves $45 for servos), I'd say it's a good deal.

My second plane, after a high-wing trainer, was a Midwest Messerschmitt which looks very similar to the ARF. It was fast but not horribly difficult to fly, and very fun.

Being the easy-going guy I am, it sounds like a deal to me. Let the penny-pinchers weigh in though, they might have some advice for you.

Patrick

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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/19/2002 1:24:33 AM   
mbc16


 

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Status: offline 		The main reason I want to get it is b/c it comes with a 4 stroke and I have never had one before and also b/c they sound sooooo cool. Another reason I want to get it is because their are not very many german planes is the 40 engine size. They seem to be either .25 or huge 1/4 scale ones, not much middle ground.

Its good to hear that its not an extremely difficult plane to fly. My biggest concern was that I would be totally outclassed and crash her on her maiden voyage.

thanks for the response

mike

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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/19/2002 9:28:03 PM   
paladin


 

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Status: offline 		mcb16, I bought one of these Me109's when they first cam out. Once you bend the LG as far forward as posible (I fly off grass), and I reduced the size of the feul tank (mine came with a 400ml/29.? to get oz, and it was huge). It flew like a low wing trainer, It is short coupled so the rudder is not that effective in loops, stall turns, etc. and the elevator gets abit sencitive on landing than I'ld like. But nothing you will notice at this stage of your modeling carrier.

The covering is low temp..

Good luck!

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Yes, there is middle ground. - 3/19/2002 10:38:34 PM   
Steve Collins


 

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Status: offline 		mbc16,

You made a statement that there were no german planes between .25 size and giant scale ones which prompted me to reply.

There doesn't seem to be enough middle ground but there is some. Heritage R/C kits a Focke-Wulf Fw-190 in both the radial engined version and the long nosed -D model. They also have a Stuka.

http://www.heritagerc.com/

Pica has a FW-190D as does Top-Flite.

Marutaka(used to be Royal) kits an ME-109E, and a FW190A.

http://www.hobbybarn.com/airplanes_marutaka_kits.htm

Wing Manufacturing has a FW-190A short kit.

So, there are more options available in the middle ground than it seems at first glance.

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Yes there is. but.... - 3/20/2002 1:33:29 AM   
mbc16


 

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Status: offline 		Thank you for those links Aptar I will be sure to book mark them. Those planes look to be of real high quailty. However, Aptar look at all of the 40 size aerobatic and fun fly planes. Now compare it to the scale (standoff) ones of that same size. The ratio is easily 10 or 15:1. I wasn't saying that their are none, I was just trying to say that the pickings are slim.

thanks

mike

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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/20/2002 1:47:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have that very same plane and it flies great with an old Webra Silverline 40. Unfortunately I haven't been able to fly it is some time. I fly off of grass and the landing gear design on that plane is the pits. I installed a taller gear and bent them further forward and was finally able to taxi the plane to the runway without nosing over. With all the fuss with the landing gear the mounting block within the wing finally failed on me and I had to replace it. I haven't got it back together yet.

BTW, this is not the only plane out there like that. I also have a similar problem with my tail-dragger Ultra Sport 40 (not ARF). I have to be very careful when taxiing this plane to keep it from nosing over. It is the best flying airplane I have/had.


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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/20/2002 2:16:31 AM   
paladin


 

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Status: offline 		The nose overs are a problem. I bent the stock gear untill the axiles were under the leading edge of the wing. Once this is done it is very important to check the wheel alignment, it is important to have toe in while taxiing on the tail wheel as well as in the flying stab position.

The other thing to be concerned about is that all your fuel weight is forward of the LG. I onestly cant remember weather this kit came with a 400ml (13+oz), or 320ml (11oz) tank. I flew mine with a OS Max .40 FP and it was the perfict power plant for that plane. But anything over a 8oz tank is carrying fuel you wont burn so why carry the nose weight. I reduced the capacity of my fuel tank by bending the overflow tube so it would only allow 8oz. of feul, while in the three point position.

The plane is still flown on a regular basis by one of the newer members of our club.

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52 4 stroke too much? - 3/20/2002 2:25:12 AM   
mbc16


 

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Status: offline 		You guys think the 52 4 stroke she has now might be too much? If ya'll are saying the perfect power plant was a 40, I think I may need to downgrade a bit. Also, the plane has a 3 bladed propeller so I don't know it that is good or bad.

mike

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52 4 stroke too much? - 3/20/2002 2:40:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		The .52 will probably be OK. The reason for the 3 blade prop is probably because they could not sufficiently load the 4-stroke with enough prop otherwise considering the low ground clearance. The ultimate engine for this plane is an OS .32. A fellow flyer I know has one and it is verrrrrry fast with the .32. My best estimate on his speed with the .32 is in the 130s.

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Messerschmitt 109 should I buy? - 3/20/2002 5:00:16 AM   
SethKenney


 

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Status: offline 		I dont believe heritagerc is in business anymore none of their phone numbers seem to work. They say that they have been changed, which is a shame b/c after seeing this website I had planned on ordering a couple of planes

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40 size ME109 - 3/22/2002 7:59:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sure flight (http://www.sureflite.com/) also has a 40 size Me-109. I received a postcard from them not too long ago about it, but have misplaced it or i'd have a pic... i don't know if the website is up to date, but if it's anything like my sure flite p40 it'll really scoot! of course, its all foam...but they're a lot more durable than you'd think as long as u fuel proof them!

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