mydartswinger
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THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Where where you a couple of days ago when I first posted this?  J/K. Really, thank you for your advice. I was told that this heli was CCPM (SWM), and was attempting to set her up as a 3 servo 90 degree swash on CCPM. As soon as I read your post, I pulled out my DX7 manual and looked up the settings. I set it up on 1 servo normal (mechanical mixing), and re-arranged my servo leads on the RX. She works like a dream now (at least the results I was expecting using the 3 servo 90 degree setting). As for the servos, I'll probably upgrade them in a month or 2 as I get better and need better response, or these get tired. Not looking for high end, just cheap (by the time I can start her up, I probably won't have more than $250-$300 into her at the high end, plus electronics that I already had laying around [Rx, newer Rx Battery, DX7 from my other helis and planes]) and safely and enjoyably flyable for the moment.
As far as the servo horn, that is how it was flown from the previous owner. He did manage to fly it a little before he set her down and caused a boom strike, which is where the current damage is from. If I'm reading my manual correctly, my links should be 1 more hole out on the center servo (it shows 11mm at 90 degrees, with what looks like about 11mm between the 2 11mm points from the rods. This heli has 11mm with no spacing between the 2 points). If that is an issue, shouldn't that be something that can be taken care of with some expo? Not trying to be lazy, just curious. If it would be better set a bit different, please recommend where it should be (I'm a total noob at setting up a nitro heli, and I never had to set my linkages on my minis/micros, as they were all RTF).
I'll definitely make sure to check the tail rotor shaft and pulley. As far as upgrading them, I'll stick with stock for the moment, as I want to go relatively cheap to get her in the air. I'll most likely upgrade the next time they need replacing (somethings gotta give, right? LOL).
Definitely not underestimating the capabilities of this heli. I'm just saying that eventually I'll most likely want the better power/weight ratio of a .50 or .90 size heli to get that extra "pop" for more demanding 3D later down the line (waay later). The vid, if it's the one in Japan where he's flying the black and blue ZXX, I've seen it, rated it, and favorited it. Awesome vid.
Pitch range sounds like a great one, I'll set that up as soon as I get the blades on it, and my pitch gauge back (the guy I bought this from borrowed it to set up his Blade 400. No big deal, I see him every weekend, and go to his house often.). Speaking of blades, I too, plan on going with fiberglass at the suggestion of our field's Raptor .90 pilot. He said they fly better than the woods, and aren't much more expensive. I'll wait on the Mavrikks until I'm ready for aerobatics. I don't really want to shell out the extra cash on something that I know WILL be broken before I make it through the learning curve (it's been a long one, believe me).
Vblade 80mm paddles, huh? Sounds like a first upgrade to me. Again, going back to getting in the air cheaply (i.e. no real "upgrades" yet [CF, Aluminum, hardened this, hardened that, etc...]), without skipping over necessary repair parts that could be overlooked (i.e. the tail pulley and shaft that you brought to my attention)
I'll definitely look into getting thrust bearings. My Blade 400 has them, and she flies pretty nice for a cheap RTF 400 size.
Thank you again for taking the time out to help this poor nitro noob. Your time and advice will and has not gone to waste.
EDIT: I've already gotten the washout block guide pin straightened out. It looked like the washout block was traveling enough to pull it out of the guide slot. I'll probably go to the LHS tomorrow to pick up everything but the tail boom (out of stock and won't be in until the middle of next week.  ). I'll also pick up some fuel to crank her up as soon as the boom comes in and I install it (after checking for proper pitch curves, probably replacing the glow plug since it's been sitting for about 6 months or so, checking that everything is going the right direction still, and that my remote gain adjustment is active of course). Then time to check head tracking, trim centering, take her out to the field, install the training gear (until I get a feel for her), fuel her up, and take her up for her first flight in my hands.
EDIT #2: I may also go ahead and run her for a tank or 2 without hovering to make sure that the engine is still OK and not gummed up after sitting for so long.
< Message edited by mydartswinger -- 11/14/2008 5:50 AM >
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Stepping into nitro helis (Shuttle) - 
Despite the fact that the previous owner has one and will give it to me as soon as he finds it, I went ahead and picked one up so I can work on the heli until he finds it. Plus, it never hurts to have 2 manuals.
. Again, I'm used to 15% airplane fuel for about $23 - $25 a gallon. 
) You might have let the shaft drop down into the clutch and your not engaged on the flat spot!!!! I have not had any slippage on mine and I know I hit the flat spot when I put it together. you should have about .5mm play up and down when the start coupling is tighented on the flat spot. You may have to pull the shaft up and use something thin to press against the side of it so it doesnt slip down while you slip the drive coupling over the shaft.
Hang in there, keep your nose above water, we've almost got you airborne! Its within your grasp! 
Keep fighting, just a few more steps and one tail boom away from that sweet smell of nitro exhaust.............. 
and then have trouble seeing your Heli....
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