Mato Sherman vs HL Sherman
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Mato Sherman vs HL Sherman
I've heard some negative comments on Mato electronics, some saying that they'd rather have HL electronics. Question, do I get the Mato Sherman or wait for the HL Sherman? I guess I need pluses and minuses for both. Discuss.
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I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
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Do we have ANY evidence that Heng Long has one in the pipeline? It's been mentioned before but they kept coming out with other releases.
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I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
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Do we have ANY evidence that Heng Long has one in the pipeline? It's been mentioned before but they kept coming out with other releases.
Do we have ANY evidence that Heng Long has one in the pipeline? It's been mentioned before but they kept coming out with other releases.
No. The close relationship between Heng Long and Mato could easliy lead to either one of them being confused with the other. I think the rumored Sherman to be coming out of China is the one you were working with Mato on. I thought you were cooking something up with Heng Long, and fed the Heng Long Sherman rumor. Mato/Heng Long/Matorro, all kind of blur together. I think the fact that a new line, "Mato Toys" is marketing the Sherman means we may have a new Hobby quality tank being delivered. Murphy Ma's passion for quality, his understanding of this tank market combined with the likes of you and possibly a few other hobbyists could mean we see a line of tanks that are elevated past the toy stage. Dare I say maybe even to a level where Brick and Mortar stores start wanting to carry them. Good quality IR ready to run right out of the box for a 1/3 of the cost of the other guys. I noticed all the tools were seperate pieces. Another thing we have all wanted. Somebody is listening.
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Can you tell us more about the "new electronics"? What's different from the HL electronics? And could these "new electronics" be used to run the HL tanks as a simple swap?
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YHR - Yeah, that was me come to think of it! I never paid attention to the name it was going to be under, I was wrong until last night even!
I don't know much about the new electronics, only that it's all new. I had some input as to features but not the hardware. The real fancy stuff will come later with the IR version. I would imagine that you could swap out boards and radios to retrofit HLs, why not?
I don't know much about the new electronics, only that it's all new. I had some input as to features but not the hardware. The real fancy stuff will come later with the IR version. I would imagine that you could swap out boards and radios to retrofit HLs, why not?
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I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
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ORIGINAL: swathdiver
I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
I goofed earlier in saying this was a Matorro product. It's all new Mato Toys Sherman. It will have all new electronics! The board, receiver and radio! Better sounds too!
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Do you know what features were added/changed? If new, I'd like to see:
-no herky-jerky recoil
-more robust FETs that can handle higher throughputs for bigger motors, especially for my Bulldog or use with a 3:1 gearbox.
-better (clearer) sound
-proportional turret traverse and gun elevation
-gun elevation that goes up and down with the stick (not a cycle, but reversible)
-frequencies in either the 2.4 GHz or 75 MHz for more tanks running at the same time
Any of that included? [8D]
-no herky-jerky recoil
-more robust FETs that can handle higher throughputs for bigger motors, especially for my Bulldog or use with a 3:1 gearbox.
-better (clearer) sound
-proportional turret traverse and gun elevation
-gun elevation that goes up and down with the stick (not a cycle, but reversible)
-frequencies in either the 2.4 GHz or 75 MHz for more tanks running at the same time
Any of that included? [8D]
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Just looked at the Shantou Mato page and checked out the pics. 'Ish not very fond of the M4A1 hull design with its curving, rounded lines. Hope they decide to release an A2 or A3 series. Perhaps I'll just wait for a used one to appear on Evilbay and go on the cheap. Or perhaps I'll just stay axis...muuuhhaaahaha.
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I've heard the suggested retail will be around $160.00. Why is this twice what HL are? I got my HL Tiger and Pershing S&S from RC Command for $95.00 each, shipped to my front door.
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I've heard the suggested retail will be around $160.00. Why is this twice what HL are? I got my HL Tiger and Pershing S&S from RC Command for $95.00 each, shipped to my front door.
I've heard the suggested retail will be around $160.00. Why is this twice what HL are? I got my HL Tiger and Pershing S&S from RC Command for $95.00 each, shipped to my front door.
HL Jagdpanther is $155, so $160 seems fair.
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Tim, those models you purchased are from tooling that have long been paid for many years before when HL was shipping 10,000 tanks a month off their lines. Given the improvements seen in the latest models I think you'll see prices inching up as you are seeing with the Jagd & Sherman. If they sell well in this present economy then prices will remain as they are; if they don't & dealers are sitting on inventory 3-6 months later, expect to see some major discounting. Besides, Mattoro tanks have always come out higher than HL so just sit back & see what happens.
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the day before Swathy announced that Hl is coming out with a sherman I ended up picking an old Tamiya Sherman off ebay to convert it to airsoft. Well, I'm pretty much done, Wasn't as hard as I had thought. here are some pics. With a minimum of dremeling I was able to fir Hl gear boxes in. I used the speed 400 motors I got recently with an 8 tooth pinion. It has lots of power despite the heavy metal tracks
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The solution to the turret traverse and turret ring was easy as well. The turret ring just needed to be snugged using a strip of sprue. I don't recall the thickness as it was an older strip. The traverse is sold with no play what so ever.
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the airsoft was a little tricker. I had to dremel the opening a bit and the gun elevation motor (but the did fit as you can see. I used a bb tray form an older 1/24 HL tank. All in all it fit quite nicely
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I've heard the suggested retail will be around $160.00. Why is this twice what HL are? I got my HL Tiger and Pershing S&S from RC Command for $95.00 each, shipped to my front door.
I've heard the suggested retail will be around $160.00. Why is this twice what HL are? I got my HL Tiger and Pershing S&S from RC Command for $95.00 each, shipped to my front door.
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it does shoot really hard. looking forward to battling Nitro's Tiger with paintballs
it does shoot really hard. looking forward to battling Nitro's Tiger with paintballs
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lol
I know, but I like giving you a big target (you don't realize how tall the sherman was and what a good target the Tiger's had (lol)
I know, but I like giving you a big target (you don't realize how tall the sherman was and what a good target the Tiger's had (lol)