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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 12:21 AM   
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You have to remember that the basin is not an AMA field. It's a public field open to anyone. The only exception is when a club pulls a park permit and an AMA sanction for an event.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 4:42 AM   
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But you need an AMA card to fly at the basin. Therefore if it was a model caused fire, the AMA should pay the liability portion of the cost.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 4:59 AM   
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You need an AMA card to fly at an event at the basin. You do not need a card just to go fly out there, hence all the crazy stuff you see going on out there.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 2:28 PM   
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It's no surprise that a group of flyers were shut down at Hansen Dam. In Los Angeles, the only place that you can legally fly is at a designated model airfield. The Basin is the only designated airfield in the City.



Actually that group did find another place and I believe it is on park property up in the area of Hansen Dam, but not in that park itself.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 5:28 PM   
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Isn't there another place to fly in the hills of Glendale?

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 6:58 PM   
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I like how people are saying "it could have been Lipo, it could have been nitro" OMG! everyone knows it was a jet that caused the fire, that goes without saying. from what i heard, jets cant get ama. so jet's shouldn't allowed there. come on people...major brush fires didn't happen until the jets showed up.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 7:04 PM   
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We had turbines before we even had designated electric area. The cause of the fire at Condor field in Camarillo was from a lipo powered airplane. There will be more lipo fires as more people move to its power system. For the most part the foamies don't start fire, they don't fly fast enough, wait till we get 10s 5000 packs crashing at 150+mph, you will have more fires. With the budget cuts of the state and city, someone needs to fund to put the fires out or it will get shut down.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 7:16 PM   
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I have nothing against jets except the people that take turns dominating the air space. what they really need to do is have controlled firees out there so when there is a crash it doesn't take 80 firemen to put it out.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 7:23 PM   
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That is a good point. If the last fire would have finished most of the dry brushes we will not have any more fires this season, and no more complaints... I love flying at the basin, 10 minutes from my house and IMHO the best flying field in the country.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 8:36 PM   
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also with controlled fires we wouldn't lose a pair of shoes and socks every time we lose a plane.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/20/2012 9:06 PM   
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from what i heard, jets cant get ama. so jet's shouldn't allowed there.



Turbine pilots are absolutely covered under AMA if they are members and have a turbine waiver.

Here's where all the turbine info is on the AMA site:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/documents.aspx#Turbines

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/21/2012 12:21 AM   
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Fire prevention and brush clearing are topics that have been and continue to be high on the agenda of the SFVF Board.

The SFVF has a comittee in place that is working on getting our new Glendale field up and running. We are still in the early stages of work to bring the field up to a usable point as it had been abandoned for a number of years before we aquired operations from the City of Glendale. We do have to bring the field up to a certain point to both make the field an enjoyable location for pilots, and to meet the City's requirements. We are still some time away from announcing an opening date.

Turbines are covered by AMA. As a matter of fact, this weekend is the AMA Sanctioned, Parks permitted summer LA Jets. This is one of the most popular AMA events held at the Basin. Come on down and enjoy the show!

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/21/2012 1:32 AM   
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from what i heard, jets cant get ama. 


You heard wrong...

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/21/2012 5:48 PM   
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As a matter of fact, this weekend is the AMA Sanctioned, Parks permitted summer LA Jets. This is one of the most popular AMA events held at the Basin. Come on down and enjoy the show!

Scott


It's gonna be so hot today in the Valley, those turbines are probably going to spontaneously combust in the pits!

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/21/2012 5:59 PM   
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Interesting we have so many Basin experts here but no one will confirm the origin of the last fire,,,

I'm smelling BS here

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/21/2012 6:43 PM   
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If you want to check out what's been happening at the Basin, check the archives here:

http://www.valleyflyers.com/newsletters.html

While not complete, there are newsletters from 37 out of the last 50 years.
The July newsletter will be coming out early next week.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 2:43 AM   
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Today is L.A. Jets event at the Sepulveda Basin Apollo 11 flying field...........and again there was a jet turbine fire already extinguished and smoldering when I got there at about 3:00 P.M. According to rumors, legend, shoptalk, 3rd party gossip...........it appears it is the same jet jockey that was responsible for todays crash/fire as well as the previous one. I never got to hear the name mentioned and I have no idea who is flying what jet at the Sepulveda Basin L.A. Jets event.........but it seems that the jet turbine is prone to igniting a fire upon a severe crash.........Wonder what consequences are for the rules and regulations regarding jet turbine flying at the Sepulveda Basin.............is it status quo or will there be repercussions??????????? I hope that the Los Angeles Parks and Recreation Department(which has day to day to day operational jurisdiction over the park/flying field.......the land is owned and ultimately has final jurisdiction by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for flood control) will not drop the hammer on the jet turbines as the flying field is isolated from any houses or commercial structures...............It is in the middle of what used to be a cornfield in the old days about 15 or so years ago. Whatever brush fire burns up is just clearing the area of choking weeds and nuisance brushes that the Department of Parks and Recreation should have been clearing with their bulldozers every other year to prevent cigarette butts from igniting the brush/weeds. 'Nuff said. Larry.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 2:53 AM   
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So how is the LA Jets event going?

Not able to get out there

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 5:21 AM   
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John, I got there about 3 PM and the action was slow........probably from the heat of the sun............but the Jet action picked up about 4:30 PM as the sun was losing it's heat.........it is always nice and cool under those broad, leafy trees at the pits...........and there was a nice steady, cooling breeze of about 5 mph blowing through the park to cool off the folks...........It turned out to be a nice day of watching the jets take-off, do their high speed low fly by's and the straight up power zooms and then hearing those jet exhaust doing their mighty roar all over the field.............It was exciting as the jet action picked up and there were always jets whizzing by in the air. I was glad to go and see the jets. I asked the big heavy muscled black guy that used to fly the Lancair, if he had seen you and he said he saw you last week at the field and you were flying your Focke Wulfe 190????? I miss you sir.............I miss the RC chit chat with you............hope you have flown that Dual Ace yet...........Well one of these days we'll see each other at the field. Those broad, leafy trees really cool up the air underneath and are a welcome respite from the heat. Hope to see you soon. God BLess. Larry.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 7:09 AM   
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Hello Larry, sounds like you had fun..

I was out there with my Hurricane rebuild and did the maiden, it flew very well and will have to take it out again during the week.
Plane started out as a VQ 40 sized ARF, I had a new wing and an old fuse, stripped them down and recovered. Has an OS 90 4S Surpass with a pump.
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Regarding the Dual Ace, just bought 2 new .46 for it, the ones that I had in it are gunked up and was cheap to get them from HP on sale. Will fly soon....

Look forward to seeing you at the field, say Hi to the guys for me..

Regards, John.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 10:18 AM   
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First weekend of August, Adam Gelbart will be CD for the All Scale Fun Fly and 2 weeks later will be my sun blistering mid August Fun Fly.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 5:29 PM   
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John, That is a nice looking Hurricane......" it flew very well,.....was a VQ 40 with an OS 90 4S Surpass with Pump"........this Hurricane rebuild must have an amazing vertical zoom climb like a rocket. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!
Hey! give me a shout when you are ready to do the Dual Ace maiden flight...........I would like to see it as you know I still have 2 more Dual Aces still in the boxes.............by the way I also bought a few months ago the VQ A-26 Counter Invader twin engine bomber with Vietnam era camouflage paint with wing drop tanks and it is still in the box. Again I am stockpiling ARF's for when I retire I will be busy with RC planes. Hope to see you soon.
P.S. For those who never have been to the world famous Sepulveda Basin Apollo XI flying field...........those broad, leafy trees shading the pit area are the best shade trees....they give not only a huge, overarching, impenetrable deep shade but the leaves exhude moisture that they actually act like those fine vapor misting machines used in restaurant patios to cool the diners on a hot day. Every hot model airport must have those kind of trees. Hope the new Valley Flyers airport in Glendale plant those kind of trees. Superb!!!!!!!!!
John, as member of the Valley Flyers you should suggest those superb shade trees. Thanks.



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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 7:47 PM   
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Hi Larry,
The Hurricane has a nice rate of climb and trimmed out very nicely. It's not super fast but has enough pull to keep you out of trouble. Running an APC 13x8 prop

Will let you know when I am ready to take on the Dual Ace

I was also lucky this past week to obtain another Kyosho Spitfire (in the box), and have sorely missed this type since I lost my first one due to a bad switch (will have 2 next time) This model fly's sweetly on a YS 63-S which is what I am going to put in it



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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 11:13 PM   
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First weekend of August, Adam Gelbart will be CD for the All Scale Fun Fly and 2 weeks later will be my sun blistering mid August Fun Fly.

Scott



Hey you Southern Cal guys, check out our Flyer here, and come on over and join us in Arizona in November.

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RE: Sepulveda Basin - 7/22/2012 11:21 PM   
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John, Looks like you have a complete Battle of Britain single engine gunfighters collection............your Me 109, the Hurricane and now this beautiful Spitfire. All we need now is some air raid sirens and flak helmets and searchlights and the boom of AA batteries lacing tracers in the London sky. Yes, these legend of legends warbirds will stir the red hot instinct in every Battle of Britain fan. Congratulations again!!!! Larry.

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