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New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 4:47 AM   
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Seems like something in the Colibri range...
I wonder how it runs and how much its going to cost. does anyone have any info ?


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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 5:44 AM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 5:59 AM   
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Not sure where you found the price, i was not able to find any pricing on the junior. Could you post the price or post the link to it for us.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 6:40 AM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 6:40 AM   
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Hmm,

Not sure where you found the price, i was not able to find any pricing on the junior. Could you post the price or post the link to it for us.

Thanks



ooops... meant to say "if THE price is right..." my bad, pain meds are working more than i thought i guess... haha

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 6:41 AM   
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I don't know if you guys have seen these? They are out of germany http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.de/index.html



i've seen em.. but im not paying $2800+ for one... going by the other JJ turbine prices, i would be surprised in an auto-start J-junior was much more than $1500.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 7:28 AM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 7:32 AM   
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I think I would buy a JJ 3000 before I bought one of these. The smaller the engine the more precise it has to be and I'm not sure JJ is up to precise yet.



thats very true to. it'll be interesting to see the turbine either way.. Has anyone seen anything new bout the JJ 3000? I was thinking about a pair of those for a twin project possibly

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 8:50 AM   
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I don't know if you guys have seen these? They are out of germany http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.de/index.html

Yeah, they go really well in a Stryker foamy, here's the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgGV5tZk1E

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 8:50 AM   
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I don't know if you guys have seen these? They are out of germany http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.de/index.html


Giddy,

Here's some video shot in the U.S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXBrswJZ-l4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIX1pUBIdnI

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 8:58 AM   
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I don't know if you guys have seen these? They are out of germany http://www.lambert-modellturbinen.de/index.html

Yeah, they go really well in a Stryker foamy, here's the proof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMgGV5tZk1E


Sweet video. I was hoping for more video of it actually flying! May have to try that!

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 9:43 AM   
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Sweet video. I was hoping for more video of it actually flying! May have to try that!

The damned thing was so small and fast I couldn't keep it in frame!

I'll get some more footage this weekend (hopefully better).


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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 3:20 PM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 3:22 PM   
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How do you know that? I didn't see a price anywhere.

Please share the price with the rest of us if you have it.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 4:02 PM   
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Introducting price for US$1499.00
with auto ECU and all running accessories complete
JoeJr specification：
Weight: 220 gm
Diameter: 55 mm
Length: 112 mm
Full Thrust: 4 Lbs
Idle RPM : 90,000 RPM
Maxium RPM: 240,000 RPM
Fuel Consumption: 60 ml/min
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I see one solenoid and no starter, i guess its air start ?

Gabe from JJUS told me he is supposed to demo one at FJ, keep an eye for this one guys !

PS - this is screaming for a smaller size ECU.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 6:00 PM   
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JJ emailed me :
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Introducting price for US$1499.00
with auto ECU and all running accessories complete
JoeJr specification：
Weight: 220 gm
Diameter: 55 mm
Length: 112 mm
Full Thrust: 4 Lbs
Idle RPM : 90,000 RPM
Maxium RPM: 240,000 RPM
Fuel Consumption: 60 ml/min
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I see one solenoid and no starter, i guess its air start ?

Gabe from JJUS told me he is supposed to demo one at FJ, keep an eye for this one guys !

PS - this is screaming for a smaller size ECU.




well not in defence for JJ but a miniature turbine is actualy 3 times the work then a "normal" 120mm one.
that is why they are almost the same price as "full size".


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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 6:43 PM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 8:07 PM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/11/2009 8:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have seen the workshop of Martin Lambert while they were assembling Kolibris.
I am very impressed about their artwork and their extreme care for detail and precision.
No doubt, he has gone a very long way to achieve this kind of perfection and took a long in-depth learning curve.
He is still continuously improving his motors and updates the supplied ones all the time with better parts, even without asking.
My three Kolibris have each one totally different ECU parameters, and I see this as a proof they are delicate to make like Swiss watches and that Martin Lambert is restless in trying to find the best parameters for each single Kolibri.
The tolerances are incredible too ; at the beginning he was so picky on the tolerances of his ceramic ball bearings that he made his own, until he found someone who could make them according to HIS specs.
They are welding stainless steel tubes of 0,8 mm as injector needles, this alone is a fantastic achievement.
Now another company seems to bluntly copy and sell the result of his technology ?
No thanks, I bought copy Rolex watches in Ho Chi Minh City (Vietnam) too for 25 US$ and am always happy if they run for one complete year.
But a turbine copy running at 240.000 RPM and with these kind of nano tolerances ? No thanks, not even for a price of 500 $ I want to be JetJoe's experimental pig taking dangerous risks (until the moment I need service or feedback from somebody who truly understands what he actually made). I prefer to pay the full price and get the superb and instant service from Lambert plus a jewel of a reliable little turbine rather than taking the risk I end up completely frustrated with a piece of junk. In such case, even a "low" 500$ would be 500$ too much.
Until now, it is hard to beat the kind of fun I had with the Kolibris and I do not want to change that pleasure and total reliability feeling, flight after flight.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/12/2009 3:02 AM   
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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/12/2009 1:40 PM   
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I send and received by mail the price few days ago by J.J.-USA ( MARK ).

I had interest in a J.JUNIOR, but the price is hight ( for me ).

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/12/2009 1:47 PM   
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but, Joe it is in the market to some years, who knows in the next future!!!!


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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/13/2009 3:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Please resist the urge to start the brandname dropping. This thread it titled "New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine". There are other threads to discuss/rant about how good other brands are. Lets not pollute yet another Jet Joe thread.

Cant wait for some additional solid information about the Junior.

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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/13/2009 5:48 AM   
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Please resist the urge to start the brandname dropping. This thread it titled "New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine". There are other threads to discuss/rant about how good other brands are. Lets not pollute yet another Jet Joe thread.

Cant wait for some additional solid information about the Junior.



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RE: New JetJoe J-Junior 4lbs turbine - 2/13/2009 6:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I could not disagree more. The history of JetJoe quality is VERY relevant to this thread. Sure, we don't have to talk about other brands. But we SHOULD discuss the issues with quality that MANY Joe buyers in the past have experienced. That should make anyone considering a JJ purchase in the future think twice... no 58 times.

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