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New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 2/16/2009 1:37 PM   
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Just a heads up we finally have new 67" Fusion and 47" ProYak ARFs coming in late March. Both of these models are coming from our new factory and will have construction improvements from previous models as well as genuine Ultracoat covering. You can save by pre-ordering before the shipment arrives. Check them out here:

http://www.ohiomodelplanes.com/67fusionarf/index.htm

http://www.ohiomodelplanes.com/47proyakarf/index.htm



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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 2/23/2009 1:04 AM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 2/23/2009 2:02 AM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/2/2009 1:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		What engine did you use for the shots of the Fusion? OS 75AX or OS 120AX?
If it is a 120, are you going to change the recommended engines sizes? Also looks a bit on the tail heavy side, seeing the engine is mounted forward.
If it is a 75, how does it perform with that engine?
Trim on both planes looks outstanding!

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/3/2009 1:39 AM   
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What engine did you use for the shots of the Fusion? OS 75AX or OS 120AX?
If it is a 120, are you going to change the recommended engines sizes? Also looks a bit on the tail heavy side, seeing the engine is mounted forward.
If it is a 75, how does it perform with that engine?
Trim on both planes looks outstanding!



OS 120 on that bird! The engine specs are for .91 - 1.20 two stroke or .91 - 1.25 4-stroke. If the engine manufacturers stop coming out with these great new engines I could stop changing the engine specs! LOL. When the original Fusion came out there was no such thing as the OS 1.20 and the YS 110 was the king of the 4 bangers. Now we have the Saito 1.25 and the OS 1.20 plus I hear OS nos has a killer 4 banger in the 1.20 range. All should be good candidates!

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/4/2009 2:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a YS 1.10. What would one see as the final flying weight with this engine and std. setup of batts and servos?

also, what prop would you rec. for the YS and Fusion?

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/4/2009 1:36 PM   
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I have a YS 1.10. What would one see as the final flying weight with this engine and std. setup of batts and servos?

also, what prop would you rec. for the YS and Fusion?

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I ran the YS 110 for years on my Fusion until a midair landed it on the asphault! I liked the APC 16-4W as I had instant spool up but many folks like the 16-6 just as much. Weight would still probably be in the 7.25 - 7.5 lb range depending on the rest of your setup.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/5/2009 2:26 AM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/5/2009 2:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		what are the diffrences between the new ARF and the older ARF? Will the weight be the same?
any design changes that would effect how it flys?

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/10/2009 1:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		When you get a chance, can you explain in detail the diffrence between the older ARF and the new one coming in? Weight?

Does it still look like the end of March for stock?

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/10/2009 12:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi guys, yes the shipment is on schedule and did leave China as planned. So as long as there is no delay in customs we should still get the container late March. The new ARFs are different from the older ARFs only in some minor interior construction and of course Ultracote covering. The fuselage is built much stronger than the previous version and is stiffer. So it won't vibrate as much with the bigger 4-bangers. The outside design of the Fusion is exactly the same as the Fusion flys perfect! With the stronger fuse the weight is probably a few oz heavier than the previous ARF but to be honest the previous ARFs were actually lighter than even the kit built Fusions! The new ARFs also have Ultracote covering.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 3/14/2009 1:42 PM   
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I have a YS 1.10. What would one see as the final flying weight with this engine and std. setup of batts and servos?

also, what prop would you rec. for the YS and Fusion?

Thanks


I have a 110 on mine with two elevator servos, 2000 mh 5 cell pack and it weighs 7.5 lbs on the dot. Weighed with two different digital fish scales. Flies great and loads of fun. The proyaks are gonna be cool too. I flew one that was kit built last summer and they rock!


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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/9/2009 5:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		PROYAKS and 67" FUSIONS now in stock and shipping.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/20/2009 1:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		just purchased the 67"fusion at the toledo show and there is no cutout for the throttle servo wire. just thought you might want to know. a friend also purchased the same plane and no cutout or hole to get the servo wire from the throttle servo to the fuse where wing connects.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/20/2009 5:57 PM   
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just purchased the 67"fusion at the toledo show and there is no cutout for the throttle servo wire. just thought you might want to know. a friend also purchased the same plane and no cutout or hole to get the servo wire from the throttle servo to the fuse where wing connects.


I'll double check but if I recall it is supposed to drop down into the battery hatch location on the bottom left of the nose and then there's a channel leading to the wing area. I have one at home myself to build (for me!) and I'll check it tonight.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/20/2009 8:24 PM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/21/2009 6:05 PM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 12:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine did not either. I just got it yesterday.

Also, for the amount of money this profile cost I would think it would come with some decent hinge points. The other hardware seems nice, but the hinge points it comes with are pure crap. Now I know they will work. However, I had some robart ones and used them. There is no slop in them, and they are much stiffer then these. If you take one of these hinges and pull on it, there is movement back and forth. Yes, just a little bit. However over time it will be a lot. The robarts have none.

However, the airplane is going to gether very fast. I can't wait to fly it. Quality of the airplane looks very nice. Just the hardware lacks some.

oh well, can't have it all I guess.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 12:09 AM   
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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 12:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		well, true. I did not buy this airplane for the hardware pkg. lol.

I have everything hinged and now just lack hooking up servos, installing control horns and balance the airplane.

I am running a YS 1.10s on mine.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 3:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry for the delay, flew to CA today for my real job. I did check and you are right...looks like the factory forgot to add the access holes but I quickly cut the holes with my exacto blade and a long flat screwdriver bit. The hole from the throttle servo to the wing area follows the same balsa spare as the rear tail wires follow. You can cut out the hole from the front wing opening through the vertical piece of balsa brace. It is only about 3/8" thick. Front hatch access is from the throttle servo hole downward into the hatch area. I'll post some pics when I get back Friday.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 1:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		You are correct on the hinge points, very loose when you pull on them. i replaced mine with robarts, also replaced the .40 size flimsy horns for the elevators and rudder. used an exacto knife and made the cutout for the throttle servo wire through the first opening in the fuse. receiver is in second bay so i will just have to unplug throttle every time since there is no hole cut to get into second bay.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/22/2009 11:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, I replaced my control horns with dubro, the kind where it has the bolt that goes thru with the clevis that screws down on the bolt. Much better setup.

The hardware is not very good with the fusion, however I am hoping it makes up for it in the way it flys.

It would be nice if a decent hardware pkg. came with the fusion.

I almost have mine ready to fly. I hope this evening to have everything done.

Right now, it's at 7.5 lbs with everything on it except rx and switch. So it should come out at 7.5 lbs. I could get this lighter by using a light spinner or a spinner nut on the YS 1.10. I have a tru turn spinner on mine right now as it's all I had.



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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/23/2009 1:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		Honestly I helped chose the hardware package and plan on using 100% of it. 4-40 size pushrods prethreaded, ball links for teh servo ends and the hinge points are equivalent to the robart style hinge points. Control horns are pretty standard for slabs. So far I don't see anything I plan on replacing.

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RE: New Fusion and ProYak ARFs - 4/23/2009 2:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree the ball links are nice. Very stiff balls in them, but nice hefty units. Nothing a slight squezze with a pair of pliers (helicopter technique) won't take care of.

However, as for the threaded rods, they are fine for the plastic ball links, but the threads are a joke for the threaded metal clevis. I soldered on some 4 40 metal ends and used dubro 4 40 clevis. Now, it could be mine just did not get rolled proper, who knows.

The hinge points will work. Nobody is doubting that. However, for a few $ more you can have slop free quality hing points. One can use whatever he feels comfortable with. However, I am not going to install hinge points that have slop in them already into a $300 model.



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