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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/21/2003 2:50:07 AM   
    Lupomen



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    Status: offline     		How do you guys think the retracts will cope with grass ? I am thinking of buying one but fly solely off a grass field. Do the mounts look substantial ?


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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/21/2003 8:36:01 AM   
    Propwash-don


     

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    Status: offline     		How about the MVVS 1.6 Gas that's the combo I was kicking around with this plane or the 80" WM P-51 with a ZDZ 40-B. I can't make up my mind as to which one to go with. I know somebody out there most have some pros-or-cons as to which one is best.
    Thanks Don

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/22/2003 1:23:05 AM   
    P-51B



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    Status: offline     		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Propwash-don
    How about the MVVS 1.6 Gas that's the combo I was kicking around with this plane or the 80" WM P-51 with a ZDZ 40-B. I can't make up my mind as to which one to go with. I know somebody out there most have some pros-or-cons as to which one is best.
    Thanks Don     [/QUOTE]

    The MVVS 1.6 sounds interesting, hope someone can comment!


    By the way, does this plane seem somewhat overpriced, or is it just me? H9 sells the 65.5 inch span version for $255. It seems that the 77 inch version is the same construction and detail, so the only difference in cost should be due to the size. 77/65.5 gives a factor of 1.18. Now, given the fact that sheeting is not linear, but rather an area, the factor is probably slightly higher...somewhere around 1.35ish. That would put the price around $344, pretty far from $500!

    I realize that the math is somewhat fuzzy, but $500 compared to $255?

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/22/2003 3:21:13 AM   
    davham



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    The robart I'm going to use is #121.

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    Price - 6/22/2003 4:02:43 AM   
    Countryboy



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    Status: offline     		[QUOTE]Originally posted by P-51B
    The MVVS 1.6 sounds interesting, hope someone can comment!


    By the way, does this plane seem somewhat overpriced, or is it just me? H9 sells the 65.5 inch span version for $255. It seems that the 77 inch version is the same construction and detail, so the only difference in cost should be due to the size. 77/65.5 gives a factor of 1.18. Now, given the fact that sheeting is not linear, but rather an area, the factor is probably slightly higher...somewhere around 1.35ish. That would put the price around $344, pretty far from $500!

    I realize that the math is somewhat fuzzy, but $500 compared to $255?     [/QUOTE]

    I quess it depends on how much your LHS want's to gouge you on price. Got mine for the out the door price of $413

    Same holds true for other items such as retract air line tubing ... $6.00 for ten feet if purchased at a LHS. I have found a source where it can be purchased in fifty foot rolls for under ten bucks. Same holds true for Tygon tubing... fifty feet for $27.00 compared to $4.70 for three feet at the LHS

    These people are as bad as my local Snap-On rep.

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/23/2003 5:19:38 AM   
    P-51B



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    Status: offline     		Actually, my price question was more of a comparison of what H9 wants for this ARF relative to what they want for their other ARFs such as the new 95" Cessna, etc.

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/23/2003 5:31:03 AM   
    Capt G



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    Status: offline     		Take a look at what you get for the money - size isn't the only difference. The nose is built up and strongly constructed.The tail surfaces are all airfoil shape and built up and nicely faired in. The wings are sheeted and the flaps are beautifully done.If you have ever built a model from a box of wood you know how much work this entails. The landing gear are substantial and the fibergalass work is great. All worth the $450 I paid at my LHS.

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/23/2003 5:35:33 AM   
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    Status: offline     		Yeah, I build from boxes of wood and understand.

    I haven't personally seen one of these yet, but it seems that 95" cessna is supposed to have much greater scale detail, not to mention is much larger, yet the price difference isn't that much between the two. Something just seems out of whack. Not to say that I may not get one of these....

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/24/2003 6:41:25 PM   
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    Status: offline     		So, any flight reports on this one yet??

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/24/2003 10:19:50 PM   
    mulligan



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    Status: offline     		[QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt G
    Picked mine up at the LHS yesterday. Now to see if my spare Moki 1.80 will fit. Will also post pics. The kit looks great. [/QUOTE]

    Did the Moki fit well?? I, too, have a 1.80 and have been thinking of getting this ARF (I have the small one and am pleased with the H9 quality).

    - George

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 12:27:50 AM   
    kenair


     

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    Status: offline     		reply on MVVS 1.6

    I read the H9 report at [URL]http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=HAN2400&pc=HAN2400[/URL]

    IMHO the MVVS 1.6 will be a bit shy on power, it will fly the plane and do well but the plane is a bit large for this engine.

    If the stang was 74" and 12 pounds at takeoff wiehgt I say go for the mvvs 1.6.

    More info on my mvvs 1.6 at [URL]http://www.sportrc.com/smallgassers.html[/URL]

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 5:56:40 AM   
    rc34074


     

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    Status: offline     		there is a flight review in the review section here at rcuniverse.

    ed

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 6:11:04 AM   
    Propwash-don


     

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    Status: offline     		Kenair,
    They are the older model 1.6's in those reports. I have the Latest & Greatest with the Red Head the Big Carb and the Black Piston (well it looks bad anyway)(Not as Bad as a Saito 180 G.N) BUT BAD.
    And best of all I have a O.S. 1.6 to back it up, when it doesn't work out. It is small for the power it puts out, it's about the size of a Moki 1.35.
    Have the Hanger-9 on order, but by the time I get around to getting it in the air I'll be in the Old Folks Home watching someone else fly it outside my window.
    One other thing, to think about, is this is a Warbird not a 3D plane RIGHT? I have seen the 60 size fly with an O.S. 90 Surpass and it looked neat, I was going to use either a YS 90 or Saito 100 in mine till I decided to go to the bigger plane.
    One more parting shot I have the Hanger-9 CAP 232 (TT-120) 73" wing (I think). Theirs no way you can compare a Mustage to the CAP. That CAP has to be drag city compared to the clean lines of a Stang even if the Stang is a little bigger. My CAP weights about the same as the Stang the Thunder Tiger 120 would pull it around like it was nothing (but not 3D stuff).
    Don

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 7:52:07 AM   
    kenair


     

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    Status: offline     		I hope it works out for you.
    I have the newer MVVS 1.6 also but have not mounted it, I may switched it over in the CAP later in the summer.

    I'd be interested in the rpm numbers between the TT 1.2 and the MVVS 1.6 with the same prop.

    I've posted a pic on the IMP Spitfire at [URL=http://www.sportrc.com/smallgassers.html#IMP%20Spitfire%20and%20MVVS%201.6]imp spit fuselage[/URL]

    I have not flow glow for the past five years ( and never hope to again) so this year I've been researching the small gassers to compliment some of the bigger gas engines in my hangar.
    cheers - ken

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 8:05:17 AM   
    Capt G



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    Status: offline     		Mulligan - I had to order the radial backplate mount and it will have to be shaved down on the edges about 3/4 inch but it will fit just fine. I have a J-Tec muffler (collector really) that should fit inside the cowl if I cant the engine a bit. G.

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    Hangar 9 150 Size P-51 - 6/25/2003 7:50:02 PM